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Just for you E.T. One sport down, a few more to go this year ;D http://www.ut.edu/athletics/sports/volleyball.html

If you can get ESPN radio, check that instead. You'll have Dan Patrick from 3-4 and then Terry Bowden from 4-7 (covers Duemig's time slot). Much better radio, much more entertaining, and no dead air.

Why do people listen to Duemig? Dead Air is exactly that. He's boring as hell. He doesn't have a radio-friendly voice, and his opinions are there just to be that outlandish idiot type and obviously jumping towards the ratings. He's on par with Jim Rome, just on the local level. I stick to 1470 for the most part other than Ron and Ian in the mornings.

I've seen it in the past. Just because you cram 109,000 into a stadium, doesn't necessarily make it loud or intimidating. Try Death Valley (either one of them), or Benny Hill, or Doak. Stadiums that sit 20-30,000 less but are absolute home-field advantages, rather than 109,000 old people emulating JoePa.

Happy Valley is about the quietest 109,000 around. It's Big 10 country, not the south.

I'm guessing Louisville alone has better WRs in just the Big East, much less counting the other schools. Potential at WR: I'll give you that.

They had Texas A&M in that spot, but once the ACC expanded, the dates of that game couldn't be coordinated around both teams' conference schedule, so they had to scramble and add someone else in place.

Eh, not quite

I guess we'll agree to disagree. As you said, not to be repetitive, but the cliimate has changed, helping out the smaller schools thanks to the 85 limit, which yields parity.

Fair enough, but North Texas football has been around since 1890 (according to their site). FAU has been around since 1999, I believe, and they're already scoring big-time road games. That was the point. What about the rest of the post, any comments there?

The landscape has changed, but the 85 scholly limit only HELPS the smaller schools. When FSU was rising, they had their shot at the top Florida talent, but UF and Miami could take almost as much as they pleased. You add in the limits, and there's only so many that can fill FSU/UF/Miami spots, and to a lesser extent UCF/USF. That leaves more opportunities to FAU. This is hardly an ignorant statement. USF was/is doing the same thing in terms of their rise. Are you saying it'll be impossible for USF to make it? Would you have said that prior to USF joining CUSA or now the Big East? It's the exact same plan, although FAU is going at it more aggresively early-on with the road warrior games. North Texas has been around a long time, and aren't playing big time schools on the road anywhere. FAU has only been around a couple years. Add to that the fact that they're located in a much more desireable location, with a legendary coach, and there's your apples to oranges.

I'm sure it was considered "ignorant" before when Bobby Bowden wanted to tranform an all-women's school into a football power, too. What's ignorant is the idea that something like this is impossible. UF was already a power, and Miami was well on their way well before FSU even showed up on the college football map. Fast forwarding to your comments: 1. You're completely wrong. The scholarship limit of 85 HELPS smaller schools compete. It's part of the parity. If the limit was higher, that many more "better" players would go to the bigger schools. Instead, it's spread out more evenly than before. 2. You may be right here, it may slow down the process, but the smaller schools are starting to break the ranks, albeit slowly. 3. A little hint: the athlete that's honorable mention all-dade county is most likely a better football player than mr. north carolina. There's still LOADS of talent in Florida, and thanks to the scholarship limit (see #1), that talent can't all be taken up by the big 3. Keep in mind, USF was in this position just a few years ago. They started out D 1-AA, barely pulling in athletes. Started recruiting the Big 3's scraps (if you will). They didn't make a bowl game while winning 9 as an independant. They got into a conference (not a big conference), recruited Florida heavily, jumped ships to a BCS conference (which may not even be a BCS conference a year from now), and are building their program by playing decent named-schools (ala Penn St, Miami). FAU is doing the exact same thing, they're just at the very beginning stages. Hence why your "ignorant" comment is well....ignorant.

I understand the Title IX implications, etc. I'm talking from a swimmer/coach's standpoint. It will be a complete waste of a time/money to add a Women's program without adding a Men's program for swimming. It will be a stale/dull environment, and impossible to recruit, and the team will not be successful.

This is how Bowden built up FSU. He went on the road and played the powerhouses. Got waxed at first, but eventually started pulling off upsets, and look where it got them...to a big time level. There's plenty of talent in the state to go around, and FAU is making some steps in the right direction.

First, I have to say, please do not add a Women's swimming program without a complimentary Men's swimming program. If you look around, there's hardly any successful women's-only swimming schools. It makes recruiting next to impossible. Second, Florida is a furtile recruiting ground for swimming. It's one of the fastest and deepest states in the country in terms of swimming at the club and high school level. Third, USF could easily compete in Florida (and consequently, the Big East) if given the opportunity. In the state, there's a relatively big dropoff between the top 2 schools (UF and FSU), and the next level of schools (FAU, Tampa, UNF-women's only, Miami-women's only). There are literally hundreds of in-state swimmers that fit perfectly in that gap that are required to go out-of-state if they want to swim in college. That gap is also where the Big East lies in terms of competitiveness. Fill that gap in-state, and USF could quickly compete with the top-level Big East swimming schools.

FSU has only had football since 1947. Factor in that it was an all-women's school until after WWII, and they're right there with USF.

Yeah, you guys took it to my Spartans this year. I was at the first game where UT won on Serge's awesome pitching performance, but from that game on I think FSC won convincingly in every game. Congrats

First, for the Nicholson stories: http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGBRNCYAT9E.html http://www.fanblogs.com/florida_state/005220.php http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/11868817.htm You get the picture....I heard it the day after it happened, not much "inside scoop", just news reports. As for Wyatt, First, arrests are public record. If it happened, it would be out there on the Leon County PD or Tallahassee PD site. It's not. Second, the media does jump on arrests on big-time DI football players, and especially QBs of big-time programs such as FSU. Hell, they even jumped on Rix for parking in a handicapped spot. It's practically impossible for them to miss out on a story such as Wyatt being arrested. Third, you said this happened in a bar/club. Were you 2 the only ones there? I highly doubt it, and if it did happen, it was noticed by more than a few people, and in all probability, someone else would've said something. And Fourth, Wyatt wasn't suspended for being arrested. He was suspended for skipping out on a mandatory drug test, and consiquently registering a "fail". (there's your "inside scoop" from me, I'm not pretending to know these people, just going by what has been mentioned elsewhere).

Ignore me if you want, but keep ignoring logic, too... The Source, I'm just as big of an FSU fan as you are. I don't have the "inside" info, but I could go along throwing out names I've talked to as well, how does that prove I'm right or wrong? I can also throw out things I've read on FSU message boards (whether it's The Territory, Renegade Report, or Warchant). As far as I can tell, your "info" comes from those sites, but I really don't know you, so you may very well know those players. All I asked for was proof, and you have still offerend none. If anything, this latest problem with Wyatt proves my point even more, that the news would have picked up on an earlier arrest of an FSU QB and made mention of it. Not sure where your information is coming from (again, anyone can say anything on a message board), but you have yet to prove it. Just as a side note: I didn't "research for a week". I only swing by this place once a week or so, and that reply was the first time I had seen your reply to me.

The Source, You have still failed to prove this. AJ Nicholson was indeed reported on ESPN.com for being arrested for a DUI. Check out the Leon County site for arrests. Wyatt isn't in there. Your "eyewitness" account was apparently blurred, buddy.

So much for this rumor. Wyatt was never arrested. There's no confirmation of it, and with the ease of the internet and ESPN, et al's, ability to make news like this big for southern football, this is no more than a false rumor.

What did Wyatt get arrested for, and when did that happen? edit: I saw further down the board why and when. But I have yet to see any true confirmation, other than just people saying this on a message board. I know it happened 3 weeks ago, just hadn't heard about it till now, which would be a surprise given ESPN's propensity to make these types of things news from southern football teams.

Men's and Women's swimming. And as a former collegiate swimmer and now asst. coach, I can emphatically say that it would be an absolute waste to bring along a Women's program without a Men's program. They work hand-in-hand. In the new Big East, only Marquette and DePaul (along with USF) will not be sponsoring swimming. Marquette is making a movement to begin a team, and DePaul is too small of a college to have one. Facilities would be a problem. I guess you could still use the rec. pool as a temporary solution, but in Tampa, you need an outdoor on-campus pool. I would love to take up a coaching job at USF, but I'm too young and too inexperienced to be starting a DI program from scratch. This could possibly be the perfect coaching job if it were to come to fruition, though. The state of Florida is a very furtile recruiting ground for swimming (not to mention the rest of the southeast). At the moment in state, there's UF (top 5 program) and FSU (right around #25 each year), and then there's a huge dropoff until you get to Univ of Tampa, FAU, UNF (women only), Miami (women only), and then another huge dropoff to the next level (Rollins, Florida Southern, etc). There's a TON of Florida talent that fits between the UF/FSU catagory and the UT/FAU/etc catagory. That talent level is also enough to compete at a high level in the Big East, and if the facilities were good enough, be built into a team that could compete at a national level. There's so much potential sitting right here, but unfortunately $$ and Title IX will probably kill it. On a side note: USF won the Women's Swimming DII NCAA title in 1987. They were in the top 3 for both Men's and Women's swimming throughout the 70s and 80s, but the program was dropped the year after the national title.

Syracuse's Homecoming game last year was FSU.

This sounds like it would make it easier to comply with Title IX. http://www.collegeswimming.com/index.php?show=view_news&id=1065 http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/title9guidanceadditional.html