Exactly, Velcro. CRM is building this program on heart, discipline, and hustle. Something Seth never could do! Has evryone forgotten that under CRM we beat 2 top 25 teams last year; also one of those teams was Cincinatti. How many times did Seth beat Cincinatti...oh thats right 0 times. It takes some time to build a program, dont get me wrong by next year we need to see some improvement before giving him the pink slip. I would take CRM over Seth anyday.