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36 minutes ago, WoolyBully said:

That's a reasonable insurance policy - for the good of the corporation. Then we have to take a look at the value of the corporation, post mass exodus.  Still get a seat at the new and improved and more exclusive table? Hmmm...

True. But those additions keep their payouts until 2036. They aren’t going to lose access to CFP.

So at least until 2036 there is zero reasons for any ACC team to bail for Big12.

2 hours ago, WoolyBully said:

To be clear, the crème de la ACC (being - at minimum Heels & Noles) depart the ACC for greener pastures (regardless of terminus) leaving the remainder of the conference to be a watered-down rendition of the ACC; which, in turn, would be attractive to the Big XII. Assuming the 'second tier' ACC teams are absorbed into the Big XII, whatever carcass remains of the ACC is where U of SF would land. 

The problem with that thinking is two fold

1. Would the left over ACC schools leave the exit fees from those leaving for SEC/BT, a similar contract and access to CFP to join a B12?

2. Would a B12 adding the ACC schools get a better tv deal than they currently have and more CFP access.

Right now I don’t see either of those two benefitting enough to completely absorbed the other and some leaving to go to B12 doesn’t make sense for reasons stated above.

Time will tell, but I think the ACC addition of Cal, Stanford and SMU was to make sure it wouldn’t just fall apart if they lost schools to SEC and BigTen 

46 minutes ago, WoolyBully said:

So what's the thinking...that the creme de la ACC & Big XII merge and the flotsam from said merger is where U of SF would land? Is that about right?  

Nope. Because the cream of the ACC: FSU,Clemson UNC aren’t looking to join Big12 it’s BigTen or SEC for them. That merge solves nothing for them other than losing one guaranteed CFP spot.

For a smaller bowl like this one the allot was probably 5-6k. But still nice to see us sell our share. We will probably have 8-10k when all is done. 

15 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

Alumni is doing a tailgate, but it's sold out. Haven't seen anything about Wednesday. Haven't seen anything about tickets either.

There is PepRally Wednesday at 6 pm at Mizner Park Amphitheater 

1 minute ago, flsportsfan83 said:

Please no Friday Night games. I'm old now. Staying up for these late games is killing me. 

Price we pay if we are in running for league title 

1 minute ago, belgianbull said:

The only negative I see in the new schedule is that we no longer are playing UTSA. Glad to see no North Texas on the schedule.

I expect bigger crowds for our home games compared to this year since Navy, UAB, Memphis, and Miami are more attractive opponents compared to Rice, Charlotte, and Temple. 

I like our schedule.

 

I expect the Tulane, Memphis games towards end of season. Navy, Memphis might end up being Friday Night games

1 minute ago, flsportsfan83 said:

No reason we can't beat either of them either. 

No and knowing how AAC likes to put their contenders games towards end of season, I expect we will see Tulane and Memphis late on season and maybe a Friday Night TV game.

We will know in February 

2 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

that changed in the last 2 hours. Now we play both Memphis and Tulane. 

Yes I just posted that

The league just updated the opponents 

HOME: Memphis, Navy, Tulsa,UAB

AWAY: Charlotte,Rice,FAU,Tulane

https://x.com/american_conf/status/1735011805880041831?s=61&t=lNM1t3Xm4bWmLthZc-MPtw

37 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

I sure hope you are right. At this point I am still waiting for a Conference Championship. I think we get that in 2025. Think next year might be a bit soon. 

I also thought 2025. But with SMU leaving, Tulane losing their coach and probably their QB, UTSA losing their QB. If we can get some immediate help on defense, we could be ready in 2024

We still don’t know who the league will replace SMU in our schedule with, but so far we don’t play Memphis nor Tulane in 2024. So UTSA would be the only one in our schedule that finished ahead of us in 2023.

But defense will be the key. Let’s look at who we get in TF that could help right away

Great to hear. Hope for continuing improvement 

33 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

 

Goes on to say this:

Next Expansion Move For The ACC? Add Kansas and UCONN or West Virginia. Or start the process of growing the western wing of the ACC by adding Oregon State and Washington State.

This guy and MVer are two prolific BS posters on Twitter. They constantly post all kind of scenarios and then when finally something hits they act like Nostradamus. 
first off WV and Kansas or any other B12 school would have same problem as the ACC schools because they signed a GOR for their last deal.

7 minutes ago, Peatearpan said:

I could easily see the  committee pushing that one team above the 2 G5 champs.

Also, how many ACC teams woefully get in this year in a 12 team playoff. Obviously FSU.

Going forward any team getting into CFP as an at large would have to finish in Top 12 to have a shot. How many ACC/ Big12 teams outside of their champions do you see finishing that high? That’s why I keep saying most years ACC/B12 will only get one team in

There are some Big12 homers still thinking that they could add FSU or Clemson. They can’t face the fact that neither of those two want anything with B12 which is basically the same as ACC and behind SEC/BigTen

If anyone is paying a big exit fee from the ACC is because they are joining SEC or BigTen otherwise it makes absolutely zero sense.

Now assuming the ACC loses FSU,Clemson, UNC and Virginia to SEC/ BigTen. The facts still remain that moving to the B12 for any other would be a costly move for basically the same position. Adding ACC schools will not increase B12 standing nor payoff and the same goes for the other way.

At the end both ACC and B12 will have ONE spot in CFP.

Looking at both leagues after the 4 exits that I mentioned 

Big12: WV,UC,UCF,Houston,Baylor,Texas Tech,TCU,Oklahoma St,Iowa St,Kansas, Kansas St,BYU,Utah,Arizona St, Arizona,Colorado 

ACC: Syracuse,Boston College,Pitt,Louisville,Virginia Tech,Wake Forest,NCST,Duke, Georgia Tech,Miami,SMU,Stanford,Cal + USF,Oregon St,Washington St + Notre Dame for non football 

Is it really that much better for ACC schools to jump, pay 200 million exit fee for basically same money + CFP access?

37 minutes ago, Roaming Bull said:

it definitely is. I think it helps illustrate the market segmentation in college football. As much as certain entities want things simplified down to two pots they can’t. There will be too much discord between the schools. Jumping to better conference is great, but jumping to the right conference is priceless. We need to make sure we get into the right conference.

I think when all is set and done USF will be in a new ACC with mostly private and more academic minded schools. With the new CFP starting the conference will have one slot there and the media deal will be better than now but behind SEC, BigTen and maybe B12 but not too far from them.

37 minutes ago, Bullsaficianado said:

Could Golesh be him? Could he finally get us back to where Leavitt brought us…it was so much fun rooting our guys on to victory back in ‘06-‘07…I will never forget marching down the ramps at Ray Jay chanting S-O-U-T-H F-L-O-R-I-D-A after we beat West Virginia in a packed home stadium! Can’t wait for the new stadium to be built!

I hope he takes us past Leavitt. We never had double digits wins nor titles under Leavitt. We need him to take us to both

That’s a transfer and a JUCO at EDGE and a whole bunch of EDGE recruits . Looks like we are set there.

Now let’s get done NT,DT and DBs 

Just added another TE a 3star from Cincinnati. Levi Smiley 

That was the best I have seen the team play. Looks like going forward we are going with Pryor at center. I think he did a good job

20 minutes ago, Triple B said:

There is no guaranteed spot for a specific conference. I've lost track of what's been finalized for the 12 team playoff in 2024 and 2025 but, depending on what happens with the Pac 2, there will either 9 or 10 conferences fighting for 5 or 6 guaranteed playoff spots ....

1 minute ago, Triple B said:

So is the Pac2 going to be considered as eligible for one of those spots?

From what I have heard, no they would only qualify as an at large

The latest for 2024 and 2025 is

The top 5 Conference Champions

7 at large. So basically if you aren’t in Top12 in ranking you aren’t getting an at large.

What this leads to is

SEC/BigTen and ND basically taking those 7 at large.

The chances of the ACC or Big12 having another school outside their champion in Top 12 is minimal.

Another reason that makes ACC schools paying a big exit fee for a similar media deal in B12 to also compete for one CFP spot there, not a real good decision.

Just added Jaylen Pettus JUCO DE from Iowa #3 Edge JUCO according to 247

I’m going.

4 minutes ago, smazza said:

our offense is so easy to defend against

 

Yes that’s why we are averaging close to 40 points a game in conference. What we lack are better players to run it. Our offense isn’t the big issue here