Bullgrad84

Yeah it’s a tough situation obviously he took the job but doesn’t mean it’s a good situation. Obviously there is a talent issue and qb issue here. And I wouldn’t say he’s calling the wrong shots. He’s game planning defenses and being creative with different runs and getting people wide open down the field. Even early in the season vs Wisconsin he got 2 receivers open and they dropped the ball for big plays. Last year schedule was a lot easier than this years. At least we are not running the same plays over and over again. Same 2 run plays and jump ball passes without any game planning like we did the last couple years. Let’s be honest, when we had good offenses here we had Q, BJ, and grothe. Same with teams in our conference. Bell will get that. Always finds a good qb and understands talent in Florida.

Or Maybe ckb stayed aggressive and took some deep balls over top on the post to separate or to keep the defense honest so they wouldn’t put more players at the line of scrimmage to stop the run. mccloud obviously likes to run the ball and we don’t complain when he takes off and runs to get first downs or touchdowns. Last week vs BYU mccloud ran a zone read play that he scored a touchdown on the goal line to take the lead. At Valdosta state the Qb run game was a big part of ckb Offense. The reason I think ckb offense is going to be great for us if he has time is because he has the same qb runs and spread game to get the players the ball in space just like the gco when we had flowers. But also he knows how to throw the ball down the field on a nfl level and help guys get open unlike we had before. After all the big time coaches to come through Valdosta state, they rave about ckb and what he did there. People are saying this year even with the same players there the offense isn’t nearly as explosive and good. His first year at Jacksonville he went 3 and 9 and then won the conference year 2. His second year at Valdosta state they won 5 games and struggled on offense with young guys and young qb, then the next year went 14 and 0. I think if we give him time and gets what he needs we will have the best offense we have had here. He has always recruited and got what he needs every where he’s been. Issue is it’s not his program. This is his first time not being a head coach and calling the shots. That could be a problem.

I don’t know you tell me ? We don’t have guys as of now that are good in space. Ford is suspended. I don’t care if ckb runs it with 2 tight ends successfully or throws it every down with 5 receivers on the field. Whatever he thinks is the best way to move the ball and win. Obviously ckb went run heavy because the young qb was hurt and wanted to take it out of his hands. Tennessee or usc couldn’t even run the ball as well vs BYU. Why they lost. I think ckb is coaching and doing whatever he can to play to Mccloud strength and the defenses weaknesses which is what great Oc’s do. We had more receivers running open than usc and Tennessee did and Tennessee has one of the highest paid Oc’s and usc is suppose to have one of the top up up and coming Oc’s that runs the air raid.

Yeah only a fcs team for a couple years. But still not big football. Valdosta state has more nfl players than them.

That’s not true. And power 5 usc and Tennessee struggled vs BYU defense with better players. Obviously ckb kept running the ball and actually we did have other options. Ckb ran a lot of play action passes and the young Qb missed them because he was hurt. They were wide open multiple times.

Mccloud ran around a lot in high school. Ckb has been running a lot of max protections and quick passing game. Mccloud needs to get rid of the ball. First play of the game last week was a pass quick to running back. He threw it in the ground! You can tell ckb is game planing and doing everything to help the young qb be successful. Even sprinting him out and went run heavy with 2 tight ends last week.

Mccloud stinger was early in the game when he ran around and had guys wide open. He’s young but needs to learn to slide and throw the ball away!

There new DC is from fcs Kennesaw State. Think they were the best defense in the country last year in fcs.

Just like I said it all comes down to recruiting. Last 3 years ucf has recruited good QBs and explosive players. We obviously haven’t. Defensively we don’t look very fast or explosive for a Florida school. Offensively this staff hasn’t found a Qb since Q left and our best player that puts fear into defenses is suspended. That’s why CKB was brought here. I think he can recruit and understands talent in this state. At Valdosta state last year he had 3 seniors go to the NFL at a d2 school and one was drafted. We had I think 1 as a free agent. All the offensive players that are still starting there and making plays we’re sophomores and freshman last year. The are 6 and 0 and on a 21 game win streak since last year. I believe if he gets the time here, he’s going to have us a Good Qb and explosive skill players. He already brought Latrell Williams in who they say is the best receiver on the team. Look at all the speed and lineman in this offensive class. Also ckb has offered a couple juco skill players so obviously he thinks we need help now. Plus 2 Qb commits that talent wise probably shouldn’t be committed to the same school.

Ckb love speed and at Vsu likes guys who can make guys miss 1on1 in space. Look what UCF has done with recruiting speed and home run hitters in the back field! This is Florida we need more dynamic guys here. That’s why UCF has been so good.

Horne isn’t even on kick return which he was the best at last year. So that has to mean he’s not 100% back or he’s just not himself yet.

Yeah no doubt! I don’t believe it will happen this year! Ckb just like the other places he was at he’s going to go out and recruit and need to get the Players he needs to be dynamic and balanced. Just don’t know if he will get the time to! Wouldn’t be surprised if he got a head coaching job and ended up being very successful doing it his way.

That’s not true see you don’t even know what your talking about. Bell got drafted by dolphins then tore his a couple years later and went back and GA for him.

What exactly are we good at with as of right now ??? below average fbs Qbs, and no explosive playmakers ? Our best player on offense who is the only one that has that ability is suspended. We beat a power 5 team without ford. And a young qb that struggled badly. If he played better we score at least 2 more touchdowns. Ckb left a place that he built his own and recruited his own for the situation he’s in now where he’s trying to put the pieces that he’s been given together and its not a whole lot.

I mean I can respect the opinion but is our talent at Qb, oline, and skill players like it use to be? Maybe USF just hasn’t recruited well the last 3 years. I don’t see the speed and explosive players like Q, Mack, Valdez, Adams on that field. Look at Ucf guys! They look like a real Florida team they have soooo much speed and QB that really play! Before he got hurt one of the best in the country.

Bell worked at Florida under spurrier aka power 5 , also was Oc in the cfl. So how did Will Hall get a fbs Oc job from west Georgia ? By the way he never came close to doing what ckb did in the same conference, neither did mike leach or holgerson who are 2 of the top offensive minds in college football ? Am I right ? Rich rod was also d2 at glenville state ! Brian kelly d2 Offense could t touch ckb and he’s the head coach at last year final 4 Notre Dame!

Qb didn’t get hit once in the pocket, didn’t give up any sacks so that’s a false narrative. Mccloud has to throw ball away and slide more! He’s a freshman he holds on the sons times when people underneath are open. Last week when team blitzed to help qb ckb went max protection. Whatever the defense gives him gameplan wise he does it. Doesn’t just run the same plays every week hoping the players just make plays , that doesn’t work vs the teams just as talented. Why we haven’t won a conference championship

For your sakes you better hope he doesn’t get the head coaching job here. Because he would build the program just likes he’s always done and win the conference championship!

By the way here is a fun fact, Will Hall who is the Offensive Coordinator at Tulane who is having a big time year on offense. Was a GSC d2 Coach. He was the head coach at West Georgia, CKB first year at VSU, Will Hall had one of the best teams in Division 2. 2 seniors drafted off of it and CKB our coached him and beat rival West Georgia. Was a Great game! Like I said give him time to get what he needs and he will kill it here in Florida! Just hope he gets the opportunity to build what he needs and has the time with CCS recruiting and being on the hot seat.

That’s bad a lot of nfl players from d2! They call the GSC the SEC of d2! Guys like tyreke Hill, janoris Jenkins, Malcom Butler, Greg reed, Kenny Moore, Malcom Butler, Ryan schaeder, and more. Coaches like mike leach, Dana holgerson, Kirby smart, will muschamp, dc at Houston, dc at Iowa are from Valdosta State!

Actually didn’t get fired at Jacksonville, just didn’t get contract renewed because they didn’t want to keep pushing football to full scholarship and new president didn’t want to pay him a lot. Funny how he went 9 and 2 that year and went 9 and 2 the year before. By the way since he left Jacksonville has 0 winning season and won 2 games last year!

Let’s be honest with ourselves. We don’t have a lot of explosive playmakers on offense. Our best offense of player who can make big plays is suspended. The Quarterback situation is bad for a FBS school. Senior who couldn’t do it and a redshirt freshman who hasn’t proved anything with a bunch of walk ons. It all comes down to recruiting the last 3 years, CKB walked into this situation. He’s obviously doing everything he can do to figure it out to put the players in the best situation. We all seen USF play last 10 years and we don’t have near the players we had with Mack and Q. The GCO and briles offense is high school. The only reason it worked here is because Flowers was at Qb. He ran around and made plays and we had so much speed and playmakers around him. Against teams with just as good players like now at FSU the offense struggles because it’s too simple and run the same plays and same pass protections. We have to recruit better and this offense with how Versatile and balanced it can be with the nfl back ground and spread concepts, with the right guys, can maybe take us over the top and win the conference championship! Ckb has done it every where he’s been with explosive and efficient offensives. He knows how to coach and create plays To help guys get open. We just have to give him time to recruit to do it!

Ckb liked being a head coach, and liked being in Jacksonville and was getting paid a lot at a fcs school. he moved up on his own. He didn’t work for someone else and get handed a job. Plus he was a lot older when he got into coaches compared to people that do it out of college. He got his opportunity here and he took it!

Mhmm Brian Kelly went from d2 coach to central Michigan. Ckb played a lot of years of Quarterback for 11 different offensive coordinators. That experience matters. Being a OC in Canada is professional football. Mike leach went from Oc at Valdosta state to Oc at Kentucky.......Gus went from high school to Arkansas.

His offense just ran for 240 yards vs a power 5 team that beat usc and Tennessee who has better players. If mccloud wasn’t hurt or whatever. He missed a lot of open guys and touchdown passes. Ckb is game planning and getting guys open. Just have to hit them. If they hit the wide open wrs could have scored 40 or 50!