Holtz was bad but they still were in it until the end of most games. CWT’s first season was awful but the second season started with MM running for 3 td’s and 275 yards against WCU and then we started to see some talent with a POwer I offense that was awful, at least the talent was evident. I really don’t see any talent on the D side of the ball, he recruited Hector, Lee, Harris, Sanchez, Miami central kid turned striker turned cardinal, etc… can’t remember all the names but you could see we had players, I just don’t see anything on the defensive side of the ball besides maybe Gordon and Dreads. Rest of them are poorly coached, out of position and slow and small.