Corey lea

2 hours ago, beastiebull said:

If CCS is as good of a coach as Corey lea thinks he is then he should be able to improve upon and overcome all of the things he listed as usf's deficiencies.  After all,  other coaches have, right?

We're still waiting Corey. 

Hope he proves you right.

17-10 in 2 1/2 years.  So even when he was 10-2 the attendance was just as poor. He did do something with talent upgrade...just not enough in the first year of the portal. I would only take 14 or so high school players this year and hit the portal for at least 10 more. The depth is really that bad. 

Well since he recruited Buechelle, he will know how weakness. If you can harass him he will look like Blake against Wisconsin. You give him time and he will pick you apart.

4 hours ago, JTrue said:

Wouldn’t division 3 imply we’re on academic scholarships as a fan base?

No...just means that the fan base was picked up in a YMCA parking lot.

8 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

I'm not sure what is more confounding - the terrible spelling and grammar or the glaring inaccuracies. Either way this post says more about the poster that the point trying to be made.

Just like that...the Div 3 fan base shows up!!!! Job well done. Beat the table when you can't beat the facts.

We are USF and that lost was unacceptable....we should be at least equal to Wisc... Fire Strong!!!

It's funny how everything falls on the staff and none on inferior talent for depth purposes. If you couldn't see players like Sawtelle, Roberts, Attebury, Norman and Sanders are not G5 talent as starters then you are not good at scouting.

I am hoping at least Hopple gets a shot next week. If Waller is better on Offense then stick him at right guard. He looked like an accountant playing nose. Didn't look like he wanted to dominate.

Mims is a backup talent wise and a hair better than Sawtelle. Boyles and Greer have been unimpressive. I would like to see Bellamy play more. Smoke Davis needs more PT along with Burnett. 

4 hours ago, MikeG said:

and the shame in that is we were in the same mindset with hiring CWT then switched gears to get the retread hire. We need to be more consistent. I wish we would have passed on CCS and looked for the next young head coach. Some programs have leveraged that retread approach but they were doing it to put themselves on the map (talking about FAU here hiring Howard Schnellenberger (sp) specifically- and more recently Lane Kiffin). That approach works if you have donors who are loaded. Even CJL was making less than 100K a yer when he started out. I'd like to see our head coach position making at most 1.5 million a year (with built in performance incentives) - even if that isn't keeping pace with the rest of the AAC. Or use some metric from the rest of our conference mates in what they pay their HC and try to be somewhere close to the average. Salaries these days are insanely high for FBS college football coaches so for all I know-- we are already paying the average for CCS. But I sort of doubt that.

And that's why this program is where it is. 

Point being is that this is a 9 win team.... so why all of a sudden that you drop one to GT that you should have won and now the program is better than that. I will admit that he has done some dumb stuff...like personnel decisions. However, just like the 4 transfers on D, he can go right back in there and get some better players to fill some holes while the few young ones get some experience. Roberts and Sanders will get you fired!!!   So will Atterbury and Norman. Those are just dumb decisions. 

I mean 17-10 that has never won a conference championship under any coach and now all of a sudden it's bring home a championship or you are fired!!!!

After all, Slick Willie left the cupboard full and had high level recruits 3 deep on both sides of the ball. Such a great coach, he can't win with 4 and 5 star recruits now. Just let that sink in. 

Usf is a G5 school and the D3 fanbase thi ks the program should compete with elite P5 schools on the field and recruiting.

1. No stadium on campus.

2. No indoor facilities.

3. Soccer fields with trailers for practice facilities.

4. Averaging 9k for attendance at home games.

When CCS was at Louisville, they had everything a p5 school had. Even a sugar bowl when over mighty UF.

Do you really think the AD cares what a lowly fan base has to say on coaching changes? No coach is busting at the seams to get here. Even the mighty Lane Kiffin can't win at a school with no bells and whistles. 

We have some decent players, but not enough depth in bottom dwelling recruiting to mine multiple gems to compete with elite programs. It is just reality!!!! Get over yourselves!!!

The portal is the only hope this program has and without fan support and facilities, P5 conference affiliation is a pipe dream. Enjoy the role of Giant Killer!!!

22 hours ago, puc86 said:

If the portal is the saving grace of our program shouldn’t we get better as we bring in more portal players instead of worse? Is incremental progress impossible? Does every player have to be a portal player before the team can improve and when it’s only 99% we will go 0-12 but then those last two portal signings will miracle is to 15-0?

Well, as this year has shown, by time we get to recruits that will come here and possibly develop, there are very few that can play with a Wisconsin. Getting players from the portal from P5 schools has its advantages. They were probably pushed out by players with better skill sets at a higher level. Just look at the success of Sails, Macon, Slade and Studstill. Even look at the splash plays of Evans and I'm seeing Thaxton getting PT.  I'm convinced that Norman and Atterbury has evidence that Strong killed someone and that's the sole reason for not putting in Hopple and someone else. 

All of that crazy talk about Sawtelle was the guy over Macon was laughery ... Mims is a capable backup, but I would not want him starting against better competition. Again, Roberts and Sanders are not big time players and need to be replaced. Evans and Davis should be getting a shot. I'm fine with developing Bellamy and a few of the younger linebackers, but everyone wants to win right now! 

Boyles and Greer haven't shown squat and I would not rely on them developing for next year. The two are both built like Tarzan and hit like Jane. We have some real holes that need to be address and I'm down for filtering out a few more players and raiding the portal for some legit P5 talent to mix in with the gems that came in as freshmen, ie Ford, McGloud. 

I watched Waller the other night and he has a long way to go. Haven't seen Kirby or Armon Williams. Can Tyrik Jones play in the middle? He has flashed a few times in limited action. Did McDoom even play against SC State? He was not a portal guy, but just transferred in from Michigan. I think he was recruited there to be a running back. I think I would give him a shot there. Joiner Jr. will be a good back and where the hell was Sands? I'm glad to see Sails handle punts..I puke every time I see Sanders on the field. Might be a good kid, but he is average at best. After watching Sails play, you now see that Hampton is just average that does not like to tackle. He has been burnt several times. We can add some depth fast...now go get some legit P5 talent. 

Just now, jchem1995 said:

I personally want to see chuck recruit instead of pulling out transfers. We have seen that 50 percent don’t work out. We need Offensive linemen like the desert needs a drink.

as far as our dbs , they got burned on at least two occasions that we touchdowns. Fortunately their receivers were dropping them. In other words you are correct. We play a team that catches those and well, we are really mad

Well most want to win now and we need to recruit also. I'm glad to see some of the younger guys get in...but our O line is awful. 

1 hour ago, 206BULL said:

Pretty sure any transfer you take at this point won't be eligible until next year, the portal isn't some NFL trade where the player is eligible the next game. 

 

There is no point in working the portal actively until after the season. I'm not saying we should just ignore it but its not the answer for this season. You also do realize some of our worst players have historically been transfers as well right? For every Tmac I can name at least 2 AWs.

At no point did I ever say anything about immediate eligibility and nor should you ever assume such a thought.

Oh kids drop during the season and enter. There are probably a few left from last year that we can work on. Our depth is awful and it's a good way to get some p5 talent. 

In order to get this team better, CCS must get some D1 lineman on both sides of the  ball. 

We also need 2 more backers and at least 2 running backs.

Possibly 3 dbs and 3 receivers.

For the most part, our transfers from the portal are our best players. 

Goes back to what I always said. The talent pool was really thin. 

Really disappointed this far with Boyles and Greer. Built like Tarzan and hit like Jane.

By the way...Roberts and Sanders are still just as bad and that says alot about coaching and depth. 

I saw Hopple in on a few plays and he looked the part. Norman is **** right awful and we need to make the change

3 hours ago, Triple B said:

Been too busy focusing on the latest 2 losses. 6-0 with NS at mlb ..... 1-8 without him.

Insufferable 

55 minutes ago, Bulls On Parade said:

Well they should have a good game this weekend 

I wouldn't hold your breath.

8 minutes ago, lotsofbull99 said:

Who's fault is it that a gun-slinger like Oladokun fell into that portal?

CO is not FBS talent.

1 hour ago, Bull Dozer said:

Atterbury is sliding to guard and Jennings is sliding to out to LT, Burnett hasn't even been on the released depth charts this season, Sanders and Roberts will continue to play. This is CCS's 3rd season he owns these deficiencies. If he doesn't get this turned around soon you'll be following around a defensive coordinator. 

Would like to see who else can get in that line. I just think CCS is just being CCS and its gonna cost him. 

I guess all that noise died fast!!!

The glaring issue is personnel on both sides of the ball. 

CCS should get Atterbury off the field period. Sanders and Roberts have no business on the field. Davis, Burnett and Evans need more time and Hopple.

On 9/9/2019 at 8:01 AM, Bulls On Parade said:

Yea he should have replaced him like we did with o-line coach. 

 

Yeah...because the coach actually was the one muffling the punts. I have repeatedly said Sanders and Roberts are 1 AA talent. I would like to see Burnett out there with Sails and Studstill. Hampton now looks like a suspect because we have Sails and Studstill flying around. 

#portalraid2

On 9/9/2019 at 4:03 PM, GaUSFBull said:

@JTrue played college baseball.

How ago? What were the rules on schools contacting players from other schools?

So has anyone here ever played any sport at the college or professional level?

Just now, puc86 said:

You honestly believe that people routinely just show up at a campus, enroll and hope for an opportunity?

Happens all the time. Before the rule change schools could not contact players from other schools. I mean you really showing your lack of football knowledge.

Cronkrite just showed up...he was not a guy that we went after through the portal. 

I know you might be hurt that the transfers that we got through the portal are paying dividends. Your boy Sawtelle is an afterthought after watching Macon. All this crazy talk about Hampton and he might be the third best db due to the portal transfers. We have nothing behind Cronkrite and if Sands can do the job then give him a shot.