Plantation Pete

He might as well since the Bulls are getting ******.

Interestingly enough they offered Leavitt the job, but he instead chose the real 49ers.

Dude...You need to get out of your Ward Cleaver world and get a clue. What the bag heads are doing puts more pressure on the administration than you being a tool of the University.

USF should take O'Leary so UCF can hire Leavitt.

He doesn't know the difference between ramped and rampant either. It must be nice to have all the time in the world to dedicate a post about someone else's typo. Some people need to get a life. It wasn't a typo.

He doesn't know the difference between ramped and rampant either.

Well...If your scenario actually has any basis in reality or a shred of truth to it (which I doubt), where would Gruden want to be, USF or Texas? You really think that would be a difficult choice?

You sound like slick's 9 year old that says everyone is dumb and stupid because they don't understand simple logic gained from experience. Mike Elston... Elston helped UC sign a 22-member class only 65 days after Brian Kelly accepted the UC job in 2007 and was instrumental in coordinating a 24-member class in 2008, and a 28-member recruiting class in 2009. In his three seasons with Central Michigan, Elston played many roles with the Chippewas, working his way up to special teams coordinator and linebackers coach in year three. http://www.gobearcat...ton_mike00.html Charley Molnar... Charley Molnar, who has compiled 23 seasons of experience coaching on offense, mentors the wide receivers while also serving in the role of passing game coordinator for the Bearcats. Molnar spent the 2006 campaign in a similar role under Kelly at Central Michigan, aiding the passing game and tutoring the team's wide receivers and quarterbacks. http://www.gobearcat.../080207aaa.html Keith Gilmore... Keith Gilmore enters his sixth year as a part of Brian Kelly's staff and serves as assistant head coach and defensive line coach for the Bearcats. Gilmore has a wide range of coaching experience, having served with eight different programs. The 22-year coaching veteran mentored a pair of defensive linemen to all-league honors in his only season at Central Michigan. http://www.gobearcat.../080307aaa.html Greg Forest... Greg Forest continues his 17-year relationship with the head coach as quarterbacks coach at Cincinnati. Forest spent the 2006 campaign wearing the tag of assistant head coach to Kelly. He served three seasons at Central Michigan spending one season each with the receivers, running backs, and tight ends. Forest worked primarily with the Chippewa running backs in 2005, molding a 1,000-yard rusher who went on to earn freshman all-America status from Sporting News and Rivals.com. A native of Columbus, Ohio, Forest coached wide receivers for 11 years at Grand Valley State, mentoring the top three receivers in GVSU history. All three garnered all-America recognition. http://www.gobearcat.../080907aaa.html Earnest Jones... Ernest Jones is entering his third season on Brian Kelly's staff. Jones' primary responsibility is instructing the Bearcats' running backs. In 2006, he helped develop a Central Michigan rushing attack that averaged 127.9 yards per game. Jones moved to the offensive side after serving as the cornerbacks coach in 2005. http://www.gobearcat.../081507aac.html This gets laughably better. So your proof that Kelly's experience allowed him to build a great staff at Cincy, is simply him bringing most the staff he had at Central Michigan with him. Again, just further proof of the similarities with Holtz. Thanks for proving my point. It would be a whole lot easier for you just to admit defeat rather than continue to dig yourself this hole. Again, if you want to continue to beat this drum of hiring successful mid-major head coaches, then please provide some proof. Not only that, stop moving the bar to now using Division II records as some type of proof. Anyone with even an iota of football sense see's how absurdly ridiculous that is. Obviously reading comprehension is not your best suit. Ron White was dead on when he stated, "You just can't fix stupid."

You sound like slick's 9 year old that says everyone is dumb and stupid because they don't understand simple logic gained from experience. Mike Elston... Elston helped UC sign a 22-member class only 65 days after Brian Kelly accepted the UC job in 2007 and was instrumental in coordinating a 24-member class in 2008, and a 28-member recruiting class in 2009. In his three seasons with Central Michigan, Elston played many roles with the Chippewas, working his way up to special teams coordinator and linebackers coach in year three. http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/elston_mike00.html Charley Molnar... Charley Molnar, who has compiled 23 seasons of experience coaching on offense, mentors the wide receivers while also serving in the role of passing game coordinator for the Bearcats. Molnar spent the 2006 campaign in a similar role under Kelly at Central Michigan, aiding the passing game and tutoring the team's wide receivers and quarterbacks. http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080207aaa.html Keith Gilmore... Keith Gilmore enters his sixth year as a part of Brian Kelly's staff and serves as assistant head coach and defensive line coach for the Bearcats. Gilmore has a wide range of coaching experience, having served with eight different programs. The 22-year coaching veteran mentored a pair of defensive linemen to all-league honors in his only season at Central Michigan. http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080307aaa.html Greg Forest... Greg Forest continues his 17-year relationship with the head coach as quarterbacks coach at Cincinnati. Forest spent the 2006 campaign wearing the tag of assistant head coach to Kelly. He served three seasons at Central Michigan spending one season each with the receivers, running backs, and tight ends. Forest worked primarily with the Chippewa running backs in 2005, molding a 1,000-yard rusher who went on to earn freshman all-America status from Sporting News and Rivals.com. A native of Columbus, Ohio, Forest coached wide receivers for 11 years at Grand Valley State, mentoring the top three receivers in GVSU history. All three garnered all-America recognition. http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080907aaa.html Earnest Jones... Ernest Jones is entering his third season on Brian Kelly's staff. Jones' primary responsibility is instructing the Bearcats' running backs. In 2006, he helped develop a Central Michigan rushing attack that averaged 127.9 yards per game. Jones moved to the offensive side after serving as the cornerbacks coach in 2005. http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/081507aac.html

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire? Quit being an idiot .... Kelly wasn't "highly successful" at Central Michigan ... and Skip was 1-3 in bowl games, with the one win coming against Boise State and the three losses were us, and losing to two SEC teams by a total of 9 points. Kelly never even coached in a bowl game before Cincy. Huh?? Going from worst to first in three seasons is not highly successful?? LOL .... Worst to first, with his biggest ooc win being over Southeast Missouri St is highly successful but worst to first, with TWO first place finishes and ooc wins over Boise State, WVU and Virginia Tech isn't ... Keep talking ... There may be some that aren't quite convinced yet you're nothing but an assclown troll. Let me see if I can dumb this down enough so even you can understand, Trip. I assumed you guys had the cognitive skills to connect the dots, but you know what they say when we assume. The future of USF Football is in a very, very precarious situation caused by an AD that has never previously managed a football program at any time during his career. His actions has placed the program on the precipice of a cliff and another step in the wrong direction will send the program over the brink to its death. If he keeps Holtz it will most likely be the step into the abyss, but if he relieves him and makes the wrong hire it will have the same result. So...The program needs to reduce the risk of hiring the wrong guy. Some say hire a young (read inexperienced here) coordinator with no head coaching experience. This would be the highest risk hire. The odds are against a coordinator suceeding even in an established football school but even greater at USF where the program is still in its infancy and under Holtz has greatly regressed. The biggest challenge for a young coordinator is hiring a great staff. An experienced HC usually chooses from assistants he knows and has worked with in the past. He knows who works well with him and who he believes to be a good coach and recruiter. A young coordinator simply doesn't have this advantage. Bill Snyder wasn't a young guy when Kansas State hired him, but he'd been around the block a few times and he assembled a world class staff. The lowest risk hire would be a veteran HC who has been successful at smaller programs for more than 3 or 4 years and hopefully at more than one school. A coach like Brian Kelly who was highly successful at Grand Valley State for 13 years means stability and depth of experience. It also means he has worked with a multitude of assistant coaches he knows personally and worked with that have moved up the ranks to larger schools over the years and expanded their experiences. I have no doubt when he was hired at Cincy his greatest accomplishment was assembling a great staff. The absolute best hire would be a coach that built a succesful program from nothing and stayed loyal even though other schools offered millions of dollars over the years to lure him away, but we all know a guy like that is almost non-existent. USF had that guy who captured lighting in a bottle, but Doug Woolard fixed that. And you know what is said about lightning striking twice. A simple "I really have no clue what defines highly successful" would have sufficed there. Trip... I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm guessing you are fairly young, inexperienced and probably a computer geek. I picture you as someone who works out of a cubicle and has never had to make executive decisions in business.

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire? Quit being an idiot .... Kelly wasn't "highly successful" at Central Michigan ... and Skip was 1-3 in bowl games, with the one win coming against Boise State and the three losses were us, and losing to two SEC teams by a total of 9 points. Kelly never even coached in a bowl game before Cincy. Huh?? Going from worst to first in three seasons is not highly successful?? LOL .... Worst to first, with his biggest ooc win being over Southeast Missouri St is highly successful but worst to first, with TWO first place finishes and ooc wins over Boise State, WVU and Virginia Tech isn't ... Keep talking ... There may be some that aren't quite convinced yet you're nothing but an assclown troll. Let me see if I can dumb this down enough so even you can understand, Trip. I assumed you guys had the cognitive skills to connect the dots, but you know what they say when we assume. The future of USF Football is in a very, very precarious situation caused by an AD that has never previously managed a football program at any time during his career. His actions has placed the program on the precipice of a cliff and another step in the wrong direction will send the program over the brink to its death. If he keeps Holtz it will most likely be the step into the abyss, but if he relieves him and makes the wrong hire it will have the same result. So...The program needs to reduce the risk of hiring the wrong guy. Some say hire a young (read inexperienced here) coordinator with no head coaching experience. This would be the highest risk hire. The odds are against a coordinator suceeding even in an established football school but even greater at USF where the program is still in its infancy and under Holtz has greatly regressed. The biggest challenge for a young coordinator is hiring a great staff. An experienced HC usually chooses from assistants he knows and has worked with in the past. He knows who works well with him and who he believes to be a good coach and recruiter. A young coordinator simply doesn't have this advantage. Bill Snyder wasn't a young guy when Kansas State hired him, but he'd been around the block a few times and he assembled a world class staff. The lowest risk hire would be a veteran HC who has been successful at smaller programs for more than 3 or 4 years and hopefully at more than one school. A coach like Brian Kelly who was highly successful at Grand Valley State for 13 years means stability and depth of experience. It also means he has worked with a multitude of assistant coaches he knows personally and worked with that have moved up the ranks to larger schools over the years and expanded their experiences. I have no doubt when he was hired at Cincy his greatest accomplishment was assembling a great staff. The absolute best hire would be a coach that built a succesful program from nothing and stayed loyal even though other schools offered millions of dollars over the years to lure him away, but we all know a guy like that is almost non-existent. USF had that guy who captured lighting in a bottle, but Doug Woolard fixed that. And you know what is said about lightning striking twice. a little overly dramatic. we don't stand on some mythical precipice. we made a bad hire. that's it. time to cut our losses and try again. hiring anyone is a risk whether or not they have previous head coaching experince. those same previous head coaches that can assemble a staff usually assemble that staff with a bunch of retreads. I've shown over and over again that your opinion that hiring an experienced head coach has little to do wtih success. 14 of current top 25 programs hired a coordinator with no head coaching experince. 70% of last place teams in BCS conferences hired head coaches with previous experience. you can't back up your claim. oh and as for your last statement, we have never had a hire like that. in case you forgot Jim Leavitt never built a successful program before he came here. he had no head coaching experience. Again, perception is reality in college football. Currently, what is the perception of USF Football across the country? What will it be if Holtz is canned and Woolard make another bad hire?

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire? Quit being an idiot .... Kelly wasn't "highly successful" at Central Michigan ... and Skip was 1-3 in bowl games, with the one win coming against Boise State and the three losses were us, and losing to two SEC teams by a total of 9 points. Kelly never even coached in a bowl game before Cincy. Huh?? Going from worst to first in three seasons is not highly successful?? LOL .... Worst to first, with his biggest ooc win being over Southeast Missouri St is highly successful but worst to first, with TWO first place finishes and ooc wins over Boise State, WVU and Virginia Tech isn't ... Keep talking ... There may be some that aren't quite convinced yet you're nothing but an assclown troll. Let me see if I can dumb this down enough so even you can understand, Trip. I assumed you guys had the cognitive skills to connect the dots, but you know what they say when we assume. The future of USF Football is in a very, very precarious situation caused by an AD that has never previously managed a football program at any time during his career. His actions has placed the program on the precipice of a cliff and another step in the wrong direction will send the program over the brink to its death. If he keeps Holtz it will most likely be the step into the abyss, but if he relieves him and makes the wrong hire it will have the same result. So...The program needs to reduce the risk of hiring the wrong guy. Some say hire a young (read inexperienced here) coordinator with no head coaching experience. This would be the highest risk hire. The odds are against a coordinator suceeding even in an established football school but even greater at USF where the program is still in its infancy and under Holtz has greatly regressed. The biggest challenge for a young coordinator is hiring a great staff. An experienced HC usually chooses from assistants he knows and has worked with in the past. He knows who works well with him and who he believes to be a good coach and recruiter. A young coordinator simply doesn't have this advantage. Bill Snyder wasn't a young guy when Kansas State hired him, but he'd been around the block a few times and he assembled a world class staff. The lowest risk hire would be a veteran HC who has been successful at smaller programs for more than 3 or 4 years and hopefully at more than one school. A coach like Brian Kelly who was highly successful at Grand Valley State for 13 years means stability and depth of experience. It also means he has worked with a multitude of assistant coaches he knows personally and worked with that have moved up the ranks to larger schools over the years and expanded their experiences. I have no doubt when he was hired at Cincy his greatest accomplishment was assembling a great staff. The absolute best hire would be a coach that built a succesful program from nothing and stayed loyal even though other schools offered millions of dollars over the years to lure him away, but we all know a guy like that is almost non-existent. USF had that guy who captured lighting in a bottle, but Doug Woolard fixed that. And you know what is said about lightning striking twice.

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire? Quit being an idiot .... Kelly wasn't "highly successful" at Central Michigan ... and Skip was 1-3 in bowl games, with the one win coming against Boise State and the three losses were us, and losing to two SEC teams by a total of 9 points. Kelly never even coached in a bowl game before Cincy. Huh?? Going from worst to first in three seasons is not highly successful?? Only an idiot would say he wasn't.

Well, duh! You're cherry pickin' to prove your point. How would they get into the top 25 if they weren't successful?? Now show us the bottom 25 and let's see how many of those are failed coordinators.

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire? we will never compete for a coach with ND. Both resumes looked somewhat similar beofre we hired Holtz and cincy hired Kelly. kelly went 9-4 and won the MAC. Holtz went 9-5 and won c-use twice.Holtz also coached at Uconn. led them to 1-aa playoffs his last year I believe. say what you want about measured risk but a coordinator from a top program can easily have as much success as a coach from lower tier. that's why OU, Oregon, UF, Clemson, etc etc have hired coordinators. Like I said i wasn't a fan of the hire but sometimes you strike out. happens everywhere. how many times did ND make a hire that hasn't panned out in the last 20 years? Only a small percentage of coordinators to HC make a successful transition. The vast majority fail.

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. That tells me that the talent Leavitt left Holtz was better than the talent Weis left to Kelly. And how is Weis doing at Kansas? Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. but holtz beat kelly last year, he has to be a successful coach

Division II, not 1-AA ... maybe we should re-visit the light years apart discussion at this point. Ok, thanks for the correction. No need to revisit that. The results of Kelly's work speak for themselves. What's Notre Dame ranked now? Say what some of you will about Kelly, but the guy is a hell of a coach. I think the only point that's trying to be made is that sometimes these kind of hires work out, sometimes they don't. Kelly and Holtz were both successful at lower levels ... Kelly's been able to also succeed at a higher level. Holtz, not so much. One point is Kelly had a longer track record before he was hired at Cincy. He was highly successful at two different schools at two levels. Then he added Cincy to the resume to hit the trifecta, so Notre Dame had measured risk in him. Holtz had moderate success at one school with a 1-4 bowl record. If you're an AD at a FBS school which resume would your hire?

No, I don't consider Holtz' record at ECU highly successful, only moderately successful. I said Holtz' 1-3 bowl record (including a loss to Leavitt and USF) was a bit telling to me. Kelly had 13 years of success and a NC at Grand Valley State before his turnaround at Central Michigan.

Yes, Grand Valley State, so Kelly had a very long history of success at different levels before Cincy which made him a better risk. In his 13 years as head coach at Grand Valley State, the Lakers won five conference titles and made six Division II Playoff appearances. Grand Valley State never finished lower than third in the Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletics Conference under Kelly. The 2001 team set 77 NCAA, GLIAC, and school records, including setting the all-time Division II scoring record, averaging 58.4 points per game. His record in 13 years at Grand Valley State was 118–35–2.

Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. I get it. you don't like USF. there are plenty of coordinators at top 10 programs both offensive and defensive that would jump at this job. I get HC is different. didn't seem to hurt muschamp or mullen or strong or... from making the transition. Doug Marrone...Derek Dooley...Kevin Wilson...DeWayne Walker...Danny Hope...Ron Prince...Norm Chow...Jeff Quinn...Joker Phillips...Frank Spaziani...Carl Pelini...John Embree...Dan Enos...David Bailiff... every single head coach was a coordinator at some point. even the successful ones genius. their first jobs weren't as head coaches. hell sometimes position coaches make the jump like Urban Meyer. Uh-huh...And that's why it's better to hire a coach that's already highly successful as a head at a smaller school. And I don't consider Holtz' previous resume as highly successful, so his failure is no big surprise to me. I thought it was telling he was 1-3 in bowl games at ECU. Then what exactly is a "highly successful head coach at a smaller school" then? The ONLY highly successful mid-majors over the past 10 years have been Boise, Utah and TCU. Patterson has been at TCU forever, and while Urban Meyer moving up turned out to be highly successful, Dan Hawkins moving up was a complete epic failure. Brian Kelly wasn't "highly" successful before moving to Cincy, and that turned out alright. Point being mid-major hires can be just as much of a crapshoot as hiring the top coordinators (re-tread coaches the same thing). Brian Kelly wasn't "highly" successful?? The folks at Grand Valley State and Central Michigan would disagree with you. http://en.wikipedia....n_Kelly_(coach) He was an amazing 19-16 at Central Michigan. How is that "highly successful", but what Skip did at ECU wasn't? Well...He took over a team that under previous HC Mike Debord went 2-9, 3-8, 4-8 and 3-9. Kelly went 4-7 in 2004, 6-5 (5-3 conf.) in 2005 and then won the MAC Championship in 2006 with a 9-4 (7-1 conf.) record. I'd say that's a pretty impressive turnaround wouldn't you? Kelly went from cellar dwellar to conference champion in three season. Conversely Holtz took a solid middle of the Big East Conference team (when the conference was actually half way decent) and turned them into a cellar dweller.

Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. I get it. you don't like USF. there are plenty of coordinators at top 10 programs both offensive and defensive that would jump at this job. I get HC is different. didn't seem to hurt muschamp or mullen or strong or... from making the transition. Doug Marrone...Derek Dooley...Kevin Wilson...DeWayne Walker...Danny Hope...Ron Prince...Norm Chow...Jeff Quinn...Joker Phillips...Frank Spaziani...Carl Pelini...John Embree...Dan Enos...David Bailiff... every single head coach was a coordinator at some point. even the successful ones genius. their first jobs weren't as head coaches. hell sometimes position coaches make the jump like Urban Meyer. Uh-huh...And that's why it's better to hire a coach that's already highly successful as a head at a smaller school. And I don't consider Holtz' previous resume as highly successful, so his failure is no big surprise to me. I thought it was telling he was 1-3 in bowl games at ECU. Then what exactly is a "highly successful head coach at a smaller school" then? The ONLY highly successful mid-majors over the past 10 years have been Boise, Utah and TCU. Patterson has been at TCU forever, and while Urban Meyer moving up turned out to be highly successful, Dan Hawkins moving up was a complete epic failure. Brian Kelly wasn't "highly" successful before moving to Cincy, and that turned out alright. Point being mid-major hires can be just as much of a crapshoot as hiring the top coordinators (re-tread coaches the same thing). Brian Kelly wasn't "highly" successful?? The folks at Grand Valley State and Central Michigan would disagree with you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kelly_%28coach%29

Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. I get it. you don't like USF. there are plenty of coordinators at top 10 programs both offensive and defensive that would jump at this job. I get HC is different. didn't seem to hurt muschamp or mullen or strong or... from making the transition. Doug Marrone...Derek Dooley...Kevin Wilson...DeWayne Walker...Danny Hope...Ron Prince...Norm Chow...Jeff Quinn...Joker Phillips...Frank Spaziani...Carl Pelini...John Embree...Dan Enos...David Bailiff... every single head coach was a coordinator at some point. even the successful ones genius. their first jobs weren't as head coaches. hell sometimes position coaches make the jump like Urban Meyer. Uh-huh...And that's why it's better to hire a coach that's already highly successful as a head at a smaller school. And I don't consider Holtz' previous resume as highly successful, so his failure is no big surprise to me. I thought it was telling he was 1-3 in bowl games at ECU. tell that to UF or Miss State or UL or Georgia or FSU or ... Muschamp was previously an assistant head coach for the Dolphins and head coach in waiting at Texas. Charlie Strong was previously an interim head coach and assistant head coach. But... For every successfull one you can name I can name 6 or 8 complete failures. It's all about measured risk.

No, actually I've had close relationships with three current and former D-1 head coaches. And I just didn't manage barbacks and busboys, I managed the entire world famous club...all 80,000 square feet of it where $12,000 would be a really slow night.

Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. If Arkansas State can get Gus Malzahn to make the jump, then USF can certainly find a successful coordinator to make the jump. Gus is currently 5-3 at ASU and has yet to prove himself successful, but he played at Arkansas, coached high school in Arkansas, coached college in Arkansas, so he may make the jump yet. Maybe USF should hire a Florida guy...oh, wait... wait what? plenty of good coaches with florida ties would take the job too. one of them in particular has a masters from usf, coached here and has apprenticed under the best offensive mind in college helping run 3 different top 5 offenses in the last decade. I think the sarcasm was too subtle for you.

Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. I get it. you don't like USF. there are plenty of coordinators at top 10 programs both offensive and defensive that would jump at this job. I get HC is different. didn't seem to hurt muschamp or mullen or strong or... from making the transition. Doug Marrone...Derek Dooley...Kevin Wilson...DeWayne Walker...Danny Hope...Ron Prince...Norm Chow...Jeff Quinn...Joker Phillips...Frank Spaziani...Carl Pelini...John Embree...Dan Enos...David Bailiff... every single head coach was a coordinator at some point. even the successful ones genius. their first jobs weren't as head coaches. hell sometimes position coaches make the jump like Urban Meyer. Uh-huh...And that's why it's better to hire a coach that's already highly successful as a head at a smaller school. And I don't consider Holtz' previous resume as highly successful, so his failure is no big surprise to me. I thought it was telling he was 1-3 in bowl games at ECU.