BULLSHTR

There is no P2. It's all made up. Stop perpetuating the falsehood. Yes, two of the conferences make more money via TV. No, that doesn't make them special.

Well that does it. We should reject our invite to the B1G.

/s

1 hour ago, 79 Bull said:

I personally think it would be hilarious for them to go through all of this, pay someone over a $100m to get out of the ACC and the only invite comes from the Big 12.

IMO, the Big 12 is actually a perfect fit for FSU, culturally, academically, and geographically. I'm sure UCF would love to have them as a conference rival. Meanwhile, let's get USF to the ACC to make our Miami games more meaningful.

Makes me sad how much some on here think everything is driven by money. I have a feeling CAG takes much more into consideration. The money is fine. USF might not pay him as much as an Alabama, but we'll be able to pay him plenty to stay here.

50 minutes ago, Bulls On Parade said:

Yea lets hope they hire another Mike Shula. 

Id take any backups on Bama that want out...I have a feeling since its Bama they likely aren't going to be losing a bunch of players. 

Dark times ahead for Alabama. Bama is nothing without Saban. They sucked before he got there. Nobody on that team wants to live in Alabama, they just wanted to play for Saban. Change my mind.

3 hours ago, michibull said:

You got it! You have people that grow up UF, FSU, UM, OSU fans and they want to go there because of that; but, there are ALOT of kids that look at academics, location, programs, experience opportunities and a host of other items that factor in. When it comes to USF, we are located in Tampa (good night life, beach/bay life, business/internship opportunities), nice campus (contained and not spread out throughout a city), great academics and a sports scene for sports nuts (pro and college, during our good years, haha) to satisfy everyone. Looking at Gainesville (middle of nowhere), crappy Orlando and Tallahassee, USF is just a crazy good University!! Taking sports out of it, for me personally (I am a little biased), USF is a perfect school in so many ways. 

One of the things that Central always had going for it was a lack of professional football in the area. They are Orlando's only option. USF has to split fandom with the Bucs. A lot of people don't care to follow multiple teams. IMO, if Orlando had an NFL team, Central Florida wouldn't have leap frogged us.

3 hours ago, MMW said:

The article suggests otherwise.

"Football" and "Winning Football" are two different things. The Saban Effect only applies to a handful of universities. Plus, Alabama wasn't exactly known for its academics, so they had a lot of room to improve in enrollment, before Saban got there.

2 hours ago, MMW said:

Rutgers moves to the big ten and their applications only rise 5.8%.

Other schools they moved to bigger league also did not show a boon.  I'm not saying this isn't interesting, just not sure what it tells us.

I think that it shows that winning is more important than who you play. Also, a lot of people going to college ultimately don't decide where they go based on football. A lot do, but most probably don't.

24 minutes ago, bullstampede9922 said:

Coach has his reasons, but don't understand all the "he quit on the team" comments.  A football scholarship is a 1 year deal.  Nothing is guaranteed.  The coach decides to extend each year.  Unlike Weaver, Battie played out the season before transferring.   I can't fault him for going somewhere else for the money.  

I don't think anyone is meaning to fault Battie or even blaming him for following the money. However, at USF we are going to struggle losing players to the portal every year. If the culture is that they can just leave risk-free and come back if things don't work out, that would lead to a lot more departures and uncertainty year in and year out. The example Coach is setting here is more important than any single year results.

If Coach Go allowed him back, it would set a precedence of letting players abandon the team to test the waters of the portal with no real repercussions. The example this sets is way more important than any extra yards Battie MIGHT rack up for the team.  Coach is the real deal.

Frisco a big Oppenheimer fan I take it.

6 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

I guess AI thinks SMU is two different schools. One in the SWC and one in the American Conference. BRILLIANT!

good catch, i didn't edit the response. AI is known to "hallucinate" sometimes. Great example of if you are going to use it professionally, make sure you edit/proofread.

Edit: not bad for spitting that response out in real time though..

In an effort to get an unbiased as possible opinion, I just asked Bing AI:

"Imagine you are in charge of realigning the entire college football landscape. How would you organize a group of 10 conferences to split up the 133 current FBS football teams? Focus on preserving geographic rivalries, but also create parity, so that each conference is relatively equal in perceived strength. List each conference with their members in a bulleted list. You may invent new names for these new conferences, if necessary. The goal is to create a 16-team post-season playoff system where each conference winner and 6 at-large bids get into the playoff."

The response:

That’s a very interesting and challenging question. I’ll try to come up with a possible solution, but keep in mind that this is just my opinion and not based on any official criteria or data. Here is one way I would organize the 10 conferences, with 13 teams each:

• Pacific Coast Conference (PCC):
  This conference would include teams from the West Coast and Hawaii, mostly from the current Pac-12 and Mountain West. The PCC would have two divisions: North and South. The teams are:

  • North:
    • Washington
    • Washington State
    • Oregon
    • Oregon State
    • Boise State
    • Utah
    • BYU
  • South:
    • USC
    • UCLA
    • Stanford
    • California
    • Arizona
    • Arizona State
    • Hawaii
       

• Southwest Conference (SWC):
  This conference would include teams from Texas, Oklahoma, and neighboring states, mostly from the current Big 12 and Conference USA. The SWC would have two divisions: East and West. The teams are:

  • East:
    • Texas
    • Texas A&M
    • Texas Tech
    • Baylor
    • TCU
    • SMU
    • Rice
  • West:
    • Oklahoma
    • Oklahoma State
    • Tulsa
    • UTEP
    • New Mexico
    • New Mexico State
    • Air Force
       

• Great Plains Conference (GPC):
  This conference would include teams from the Midwest and the Great Plains, mostly from the current Big Ten and MAC. The GPC would have two divisions: East and West. The teams are:

  • East:
    • Ohio State
    • Michigan
    • Michigan State
    • Penn State
    • Indiana
    • Purdue
    • Notre Dame
  • West:
    • Nebraska
    • Iowa
    • Iowa State
    • Minnesota
    • Wisconsin
    • Northwestern
    • Illinois
       

• Southeastern Conference (SEC):
  This conference would include teams from the Southeast, mostly from the current SEC and Sun Belt. The SEC would have two divisions: East and West. The teams are:

  • East:
    • Florida
    • Georgia
    • South Carolina
    • Tennessee
    • Kentucky
    • Vanderbilt
    • Appalachian State
  • West:
    • Alabama
    • Auburn
    • LSU
    • Mississippi
    • Mississippi State
    • Arkansas
    • Louisiana
       

• Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC):
  This conference would include teams from the Atlantic Coast, mostly from the current ACC and American Athletic Conference. The ACC would have two divisions: Atlantic and Coastal. The teams are:

  • Atlantic:
    • Clemson
    • Florida State
    • Louisville
    • NC State
    • Wake Forest
    • Boston College
    • Syracuse
  • Coastal:
    • Miami
    • Virginia
    • Virginia Tech
    • North Carolina
    • Duke
    • Pittsburgh
    • Navy
       

• Northeast Conference (NEC):
  This conference would include teams from the Northeast, mostly from the current FBS independents and American Athletic Conference. The NEC would have two divisions: North and South. The teams are:

  • North:
    • Army
    • UMass
    • UConn
    • Buffalo
    • Temple
    • Rutgers
    • Maryland
  • South:
    • West Virginia
    • Marshall
    • Cincinnati
    • Ohio
    • Liberty
    • Charlotte
    • East Carolina
       

• Mid-American Conference (MAC):
  This conference would include teams from the Mid-American region, mostly from the current MAC and Conference USA. The MAC would have two divisions: East and West. The teams are:

  • East:
    • Akron
    • Bowlin Green
    • Kent State
    • Miami (OH)
    • Toledo
    • Western Kentucky
    • Middle Tennessee
  • West:
    • Ball State
    • Central Michigan
    • Eastern Michigan
    • Western Michigan
    • Northern Illinois
    • Southern Miss
    • Louisiana Tech
       

• Mountain West Conference (MWC):
  This conference would include teams from the Mountain West region, mostly from the current Mountain West and FBS independents. The MWC would have two divisions: Mountain and West. The teams are:

  • Mountain:
    • Colorado
    • Colorado State
    • Wyoming
    • Utah State
    • Nevada
    • UNLV
    • San Diego State
  • West:
    • Fresno State
    • San Jose State
    • Cal Poly
    • UC Davis
    • Sacramento State
    • Idaho
    • Idaho State
       

• Sun Belt Conference (SBC):
  This conference would include teams from the Sun Belt region, mostly from the current Sun Belt and Conference USA. The SBC would have two divisions: East and West. The teams are:

  • East:
    • Georgia State
    • Georgia Southern
    • Coastal Carolina
    • Troy
    • South Alabama
    • UAB
    • FAU
  • West:
    • UL Monroe
    • UL Lafayette
    • Arkansas State
    • Texas State
    • UTSA
    • North Texas
    • FIU
       

• American Conference (AC):
  This conference would include teams from various regions of the country, mostly from the current American Athletic Conference and FBS independents. The AC would have two divisions: North and South. The teams are:

  • North:
    • UCF
    • USF
    • Memphis
    • Houston
    • Tulsa
    • SMU
    • UTEP
  • South:
    • Missouri
    • Kansas
    • Kansas State
    • South Carolina
    • North Carolina
    • Duke
    • Wake Forest

That's some Grade-A ********. So, we're eligible to potentially participate in the CFP, but don't get to share in the money, because of some arbitrarily made up division of P5/G5 with no real meaning.

Smells like a class action lawsuit in the making.

I know there's a lot more important issues in the country/world, but I really wish that congress would step in and blow up the  entire college football landscape and rebuild from scratch. There's a lot of state-funded institutions involved and a lot of money at stake.

1 minute ago, Bull Matrix said:

Basically Big Swaim has it backwards..

That's my understanding, as well.

How often does a player enter the portal, but not end up transfering?

On 12/25/2023 at 6:38 AM, BDYZR said:

Should have made it a heptagon

Bowling is fun

BULLSHTR's 2024 Football Season Prediction

Week 1: Bethune Cookman - Loss (0-1, 0-0)

— Our guys get caught looking ahead to next week playing @ Tuscaloserville and the scrappy HBCU team from Daytona has an FAU-esque made up rivalry moment and stuns us at home.

Week 2: @ Alabama - Loss (0-2, 0-0)

— The team has a major confidence issue from their embarrassing season home opener. Alabama jumps out to an early lead, but then USF surprisingly hangs in there enough to where it doesn't get too ugly. Once again, Saban goes for style points with the clock winding down in the 4th quarter.

Week 3: @ Southern Miss - Loss (0-3, 0-0)

— It's Week 3 and the team is beat up. On top of that, we have Miami at home next week and once again, we are only thinking about getting back home and taking it to the Hurricanes. Southern Piss takes advantage and wins in a shootout in double OT.

Week 4: Miami - Loss (0-4, 0-0)

— More players on the injured list. Also, Miami is playing great and they win making it look easy.

Week 5: @ Charlotte - Win (1-4, 1-0)

— The season has gotten off to a terrible start, but now conference play starts. Golesh gets the team's head on straight and comes out with their first win of the season on the road at Charlotte. 1 and 'O in the AAC!

Week 6: @ FAU - Loss (1-5, 1-1)

— USF comes ready to play this time, but FAU is still out for blood. Both teams are playing lights out, but there are penalty flags every few plays. At times, the players seemed to stop caring about the rules. FAU pulls out a close one with their slight home-field advantage and every USF fan is worried that FAU is "passing" us.

Week 7: @ Rice - Win (2-5, 2-1)

— Another week on the road, but this time it's cream-puffed Rice. We win this one easily, but it's still not clear if our team is good.

Week 8: @ Tulane - Loss (2-6, 2-2)

— With their HC and QB gone, this is not the Tulane team of yore. They still are fundamentally good and win this high-scoring, back-and-forth game.

Week 9: UAB - Win (3-6, 3-2)

— Nobody knows what UAB was on, the last time we met. This time though, the Bulls stampede the team from Birmingham and show signs of greatness. This is the team we thought we were!

Week 10: Memphis - Win (4-6, 4-2)

— Despite the 0-4 start, the team is already in a 3-way tie for 1st place in the AAC. A win here would put them ahead of Memphis. The team is at home and puts on a clinic.

Week 11: Navy - Win (5-6, 5-2)

— The Bulls carry the momentum right through the next two games.

Week 12: Tulsa - Win (6-6, 6-2)

— Easy win and the team is on a hot 4-game win streak going into a championship rematch against Tulane.

Week 13: AAC Championship vs. Tulane - Win (7-6, 7-2)

— This game looks a lot like the first game, but this time USF comes out on top and wins our first conference championship.

Week 14: Non-NY6 Bowl - Win (8-6, 7-2)

— We play the 5-7 Gators in the Gasparilla Bowl and hand them an L. This time our kicker makes a couple clutch field goals.

They should have gave us central. Wouldn’t have been an empty seat.

1 minute ago, NinjaPenguin777 said:

Wow that pass interference was awful 

Honestly have never seen a pass interference where the defender didn’t make contact…

29 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

 

Goes on to say this:

Next Expansion Move For The ACC? Add Kansas and UCONN or West Virginia. Or start the process of growing the western wing of the ACC by adding Oregon State and Washington State.

add uconn and usf.

Found this higher res version of the rendering on USF's site. It's starting to grow on me, after the initial shock of all the weird shapes has worn off. One thing is for sure that it makes oveido's stadium look like a disaster waiting to happen.

8 hours ago, Triple B said:

Link?

Wikipedia.org

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