BULLSHTR

14 hours ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

Exactly. The big blue bloods won't sign up for it on the off chance that a few down years sends them out. The coat tail riders would absolutely find no value in this.

Idk, when was the last time any of the blue bloods finished dead last in their conference? Serious question.

What I'm learning is that MBB is even more messy than CFB. Really wish the NCAA would implement some kind of regional relegation model in both sports. That would make it all way more interesting.

How do we explain UNT being ahead of us? What about teams like "St. Bonaventure"? Bradley? Drake? Those last two haven't even played any top 25 teams..

22 minutes ago, Triple B said:

UNI is 127 ....

oh good, they fixed it. they weren't a few days ago. how often do they update the rankings?

19 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

does anyone ahead of us have 3 worse losses than we do? What are our quality wins? Look at the NET's of the teams we have beaten. I think our best win is Memphis who has a NET in the 80's. 

 

This turnaround has been fantastic, and we might be building something, but there is no conspiracy to keep us down. We do not have the resume of a NCAA Tourney team, only realistic way to get there is to win the conference. We have a real shot at doing that.

Idk, we beat UNI head to head and have a better record. They're still ahead. I still don't know what school that is.

Just now, olafberserker said:

I think it would have marginable impact on it's overall popularity around the world but it probably helps.  I don't think college football has a popularity problem

It's about to have a problem, if they don't do this right.

12 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

While I don't disagree with your sentiment and novel approach (it will never happen though) ... I don't think that is why soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the world

Sure, it's arguable. Though, imagine if soccer did not have the relegation model. I'm sure fans of the smaller teams wouldn't care nearly as much if they had 0% chance of ever competing for it all (even if their chance is still effectively 0%). Fan bases really just want the opportunity.

There should be a premier league of the top 40. 4 divisions of 10 teams each. Last place team team from each division gets relegated.

The lower league could have 4 corresponding divisions with 18 teams each, where every year the winner of each lower division gets promoted to replace the worst team in each division of the premier league.

This would save college football. It made soccer the most popular sport in the world.

FAU does at least have a few quality wins. Can't say the same for many other teams ahead of us in the NET rankings.

Ok, now will we be ranked? how many teams that are favored to win do we have to beat? I feel like even if we beat FAU, it will just drop them out of the rankings.

IMO the whole CF landscape should be burned to the ground and reformed with 4 main regional conferences and a relegation/promotion model to and from a lesser league a la soccer. I think that would make everyone happy, except for maybe teams like FSU that periodically have some really bad down years.

1 hour ago, Cat941 said:

I concur.  These factors aren't important?  I don't get it.

Number of students and alumni = potential TV watchers when the team is winning. Most college football teams have fair weather fans. There's like 20 universities that could say otherwise.

3 minutes ago, Triple B said:

4 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

We’ve moved up 6 spots from 122 to 116 in NET Ranking “through January 27th games”. 
 

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

I guess i just didn't realize how important pre-season rankings are.

11-9 UNI from MVC? I don't even know WTF they are.

10 hours ago, BullyPulpit said:

I think it is adorable that some of you think we should be ranked. Tell me you didn't follow college basketball before this season without telling me you didn't follow college basketball before this season. 

I… ummm… literally said I’m new to following college hoops.

3 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

If a 15-5 Virginia, 3rd in the ACC, isn’t getting Top 25 votes, a 12-5 South Florida of the lowly AAC isn’t even close. 
 

Virginia has wins over Florida (Votes), then-ranked #14 Texas A&M.

Virginia has losses vs #13 Wisconsin, @ #19 Memphis, @ Notre Dame, @ NC State (Votes), & @ Wake Forest. 


There are numerous teams out there in better conferences, with stronger strength of schedule, with similar records as USF who are not receiving votes or currently ranked in the Top 25.

If USF was 17-0 and went 18-0 after today, we’d have an argument if we weren't at least receiving votes.

We will never be ranked this season and I’ll repeat for those who aren’t listening or don’t understand how this works, USF will not make the tournament this season with our minimum of 5 losses unless we win the AAC tournament to receive the automatic qualifier. It’s just the way it works. Need to play better opponents and beat those better opponents to make it or run the table with 1 or maybe 2 losses. 

I hear ya. I guess my question is becoming "Why do they only rank the top 25 in MBB, if the NCAA tournament has 64 teams?" If the answer is because the rankings don't matter, then why do them at all? Honestly asking, i've never followed college hoops.

19 hours ago, aroth said:

Honest question, how is the current makeup of the B12 significantly different than that of the ACC less FSU and Clemson? To me, it seems like a draw and they’re interchangeable as 3rd and 4th best, but online people act like the ACC is vastly inferior. Am I underestimating the appeal of Ok. St. And WVU? 

It is not significantly different. I'd say OK St. is on par with a team like Virginia Tech (maybe with a more rabid/delusional fanbase) and WVU is on par with Pitt. WVU wishes it was in the ACC, but at the time they were happy to escape the imploding Big East Fb.

Just took a look at the basketball rankings and USF isn't even getting votes? I know there's too many teams, but what a crock. Creighton is ranked #17 and has a worse record than us. They also lost two out of their 3 games against ranked opponents. Also, a 69-48 loss to an unranked Colo. St... What's up with that? I'm gonna have a hard time following college basketball if this is how it works. Seems way worse than the old CFB ranking system. Please discuss.

6 hours ago, Mike Stuben said:

FSU academically is ahead of USF in most measures. We do have AAU which is a big deal, and is largely about research (other things too). 

While it is possible them stay, either because they are stuck, or because the ACC finds away to be more attractive to their top teams, it seems more likely that divorce is coming. 

Not sure why you are comparing USF and FSU's academic standards. I simply said FSU's aren't good enough for the B1G. USF's probably aren't either, but as you pointed out we do at least have AAU status.

Miami is more B1G material than FSU. I could see FSU in the SEC, if Florida weren't so scared of them.

8 hours ago, Mike Stuben said:

The most interesting thing to me, what does Miami do. 

We know FSU is gone from the ACC. I am not sure Miami is one of the top 4 that gets the step up. If not, how does that impact us. 

Another wild scenario. SEC takes Miami and FSU. Then does the Big 10 look at us as a path to Florida. 

The other option is that FSU stays in the ACC and stops whining because next year 12 teams get in to the playoffs. All they've really done in the last couple months is create a lot of enemies with their conference mates lol. Florida doesn't want them in the SEC, because of recruiting. B1G doesn't want them because of their low academic standards. Funny stuff.

Dodged a bullet. A very loud, flashy bullet.

Why are people always posting Big 12 shills here? They are trying to manifest the reality that they are not the weaker conference. Hey guys, you lost OU and TX, remember? The ACC probably doesn't even want, nor need FSU at this point.

There is a weird myth that college students must be college kids.

Just now, Outlaw said:

It was never coming.

I guess I added the /s too low in my post. my b.