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17

Castaneda - 15

Collins - 6

60%

2 hours ago, Sellular1 said:

Disney showing us as a #7 seed in same group with UConn. 

What a joke.

13 minutes ago, puc86 said:

I absolutely think that many coaches could have won those other two games and I do not accept that because we got blown out means that no one else could have been competitive.

Maybe, but we didn't hire those coaches and we didn't sign this coach to a one year deal, so I am more than happy to see how things go. 

2 hours ago, puc86 said:

That it would be difficult is why it would get praise as would 5 wins, 3-4 would be holding serve and getting 1 is failure. Do you honestly believe that it was not possible for anyone to have won 3 games last season? 

Not with the talent level we had, especially at QB. You might - and stress might - have been able to get wins over Temple and Memphis as those were losses by a combined 3 points. But no other head coach was going to make a difference in wins and losses on the other 6 games where we lost by an average of 28.1 points.

One could argue that with a different coach, we may not have even been competitive in the Temple and Memphis games, so that argument goes both ways.

But the bigger question is, why do you think winning 3 games - which is the now the acid test for your argument - an improvement since you entire argument is based on 1 win being less than 4 wins?? 

When I think you are being an insufferable blowhard with arguments that are weaker than North Korea's Bill of Rights, then you have really jumped the shark.

Every coaching hire and situation is unique. @puc86 its okay to expect more from your team, but you are likely to be disappointed on a daily basis until such time as the program finally turns it around. Take it from someone who had to learn the hard way, being positive and having realistic goals for your entertainment is the best path to joy, otherwise your entertainment isn't following USF athletics, your entertainment is actually acts of disappointment and bitterness, and you are simply entertaining yourself to fill the void. 

28 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said:

Do what I'm doing, join a gym, eat healthier, and drink White Claws......I admit they don't taste as good as beer, but you get use to them.

I have to give up soda and get more active for starters.

27 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said:

This is what I have heard.  So you just confirmed it.  But whatever, if he is buying!!

I'd gladly buy a round for this group!

18 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said:

I'm starting to like you even better......I'll take a Tito's with Club Soda and a Lime.  Gotta watch the waist line, working out and trying to cut back on the calories!

I have put on way to much weight during the pandemic - working remotely and 20 feet from my kitchen is not good!

1 hour ago, Jonesy Bull said:

Ummmm.....CJS is still under consideration.  Tell me you are smarter than to judge him after one Covid year with absolutely no time to recruit and he admitted was an Evaluation year.....tell me you are smarter than that Puc!

Now after 2-3 years down the line, if we are still having this conversation.  Then I will admit you are right, and take you out to your favorite restaurant!

Agreed - one year of results during a pandemic. Have to give him the 3 years we gave CWT.

And I'll pay for the drinks!

1 hour ago, puc86 said:

Past performance is the best indicator of future performance and since we do not have a basketball hire to compare it to it’s the best indicator that we have, also his greatest circle of contacts are from football. Is there an example of a successful hire made by MK that I can use to recalibrate my calculation?

Tell that to the GME bag holders lol

1 hour ago, Jonesy Bull said:

Huh?  You are talking both sides out of your mouth.  You can't have it both ways in one year dude.

If after 5 years?  That ship would have sailed way before then.

Last bold, HUH?  I truly believe now you really are a troll.  Should have listened to the rest of the posters here.

 

I just think that if he can get us to .500 and show improvement on offense, add a 7th year to the deal. However, if he can do better than that then I would be all for a multi-year extension. Not sure what was so hard to understand about that, so hopefully me restating it helps.

I'm not a troll. Trolls likely have better places to hang out at lol

10 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said:

OK Crazy.....I'll bite, what is your definition of "successful enough to warrant an extension"??

For a multi-year extension, I would say an NCAA bid or a deep run in the NIT. For a one-year extension I would settle for just being average - .500 conference record and an OER in or around the 50% percentile. 

If after 5 years, you can't do any of that in any year AND you can keep your job, then I am not sure what the goal is for MBB.

Gregory deserves a statue for breathing new life into the program and should be thought of in the same way Bucs fans think of Tony Dungy - he took a wretched program and changed the culture.  While he may not be able to take the program any further, he laid a foundation for whoever the next coach is.

1 hour ago, Triple B said:

You can never take doom and gloom away from some. Finding dark lininings in silver clouds is a refined art.

Bottom line is that all the MBB back and forth is getting pretty tiresome. The **** gets real at the end of next year when MK has to decide whether to extend the contract or move in another direction. It will boil down to that one year, IMO, and I hope that CBG can pull it off because I'm not looking forward to yet another rebuild ............... even though it shouldn't be near as monumental a task as last time.

Agree - next year will be the key year. It will be interesting to see what MK deems as successful enough to warrant an extension.

5 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

I think Gregory needs to be given a full season without COVID to assess where we are going, we can’t be changing coaches every three years and burning the program to the ground each time.

If this was his 1st season I totally agree, but he is completing his 4th year, so there is still ALOT to go off of. The disappointment of this season can be reasonably argued to be from things within and outside Gregory's control or influence.

He will likely be back for Year 5 and I am sure expectations, regardless of who stays an who guys, will be high.

6 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

So just that I am clear.  When you "called out many of our programs on this board " it is cool, but if anyone else questions anything they are wallowing in the "doom and gloom on everything with our program".  And I'm not calling you out or anything I just want to be clear on the board rules ..... 

Great point. 

16 minutes ago, Triple B said:

A team missing it's front court would have a tendency to look in disarray .... Next year is the 5th in a 6 year contract. MK will have a decision to make at the end of it one way or another.

100% agree. Nothing that has occurred in the last 2 games should influence anyone's opinion of the program one way or the other. Instead your opinion should be formed on Gregory's  prior 119 games and not the 2 where he was missing his two big pieces.

He may be on the "mild seat" but absolutely agree he gets his 5th year, but next year the program will need to make a BIG leap. I am just not sure how that happens with the departures that will and could occur. 

Someone just needs to separate themselves from the pack, and it needs to happen before conference play (preferably sooner).

I don't want to be in Year 4 of Scott's tenure and he is still trying to pick a QB.

16 minutes ago, SANJAY said:

Didn’t Yetna participate in senior day yesterday? Thought I read he did. Which means he’s likely gone no matter what we think his chances of paying pro ball. As a reminder pro ball could be Europe or elsewhere not necessarily the NBA.

I don't expect him back. Its my understanding he graduates this spring and If he receives an offer to play in the LNB he will likely head back to France. 

My bigger concern is Murphy transferring out with players now able to transfer without having to sit out a year - that would leave Durr as our only returning starter.

9 minutes ago, BullsWinBucsWin said:

I've already seen articles about how RJS is becoming outdated.  Hard to believe as it feels like just a few years ago I was sitting in a brand new stadium watching the up and coming Buccaneers playing the Chicago Bears.  That was September 1998, almost 23 years ago, and I want to say the average life span of an NFL stadium is like 30 years.  The Georgia Dome (which is the worst place I've ever watched a football game, btw) was replaced after 22.  Now that the team is riding the wave of the Super Bowl, I wouldn't be completely shocked to start hearing some rumblings.  

I think it's more likely we will be playing in a new NFL stadium long before our own OCS.

I don't think the region has an appetite to build a new stadium - we can't even get a transportation tax that was approved by voters going, without lawsuits derailing it. While I think the Rays are first in line for a new stadium, I could see the region letting them go, but building a new stadium for the Bucs would be the next referendum in if Tampa wants to remain a big league city.

There is a long history of metro (or financially challenged) schools sharing pro stadiums, and even though its a bit dated RJS is still a good one. 

3 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said:

I haven't seen enough to say that this SAME team will come back and finish 4th/5th in the conference.  Unless injuries are hindering us more than we think.

Based on other's comments, I'm not sure why I keep answering you, if you indeed are disguised as someone else?

Gotta find the positives!

If you have access to ESPN+ its a good read. Gregory is mentioned here. They reference the disappointments of the last two seasons, his low buyout and not having had a winning conference record since 2009.

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If Gregory can find a way to keep most of this year's team intact (Yetna not heading back to France, Murphy not transferring out, either Brown/Collins return), then this team - if healthy - should be primed for a big 2021-22 season. Remember this was a team predicted to finish 4th/5th in the AAC, but was never the same team coming out of the Covid break.

9 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

The only teams who use COVID as an excuse are the ones who are losing...

Hard to argue with that.

You know your team is bad when the announcers' summary of your season is "people are dying from Covid and there was a basketball season".

USF offense with 16 field goals made and 17 turnovers.

Murphy and Collins with a combined 6 points and 10 turnovers.