FYI: If you are in the market for a DirecTV HD receiver but hesitant to spend over $400 for a new dish and receiver, you can very easily haggle with their customer retention department (1-800-600-8977) and receive a new HD receiver, an oval triple LNB dish, free installation and 6-months of free HD programming for $99.00 plus tax + S&H. Simply call this number and ask them if they can match dish network's or Voom's offers for a "free receiver". If you are interested in learning more read the HiDef forum thread below which tells you what to look for and how to approach DTV. The only caveat is that they won't start giving you their best deal until you tell them that you want to cancel. After that it's pretty easy to keep them retreating to $99.00 if you have been a customer for more than 5 years or $149 for customers of 3 years. This has been a CyberBull public service announcement. High Def Forum