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Bull94

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  1. so their renting their content for another 10 years. they don't own anything.
  2. I'm sure they will be around in one form or another but there is a reason why Bally's is going through bankruptcy. There is also a reason espn is desperately looking for partners. Again your 25million is wrong. It's more like 5million and that's at $9 per month. raise the prices and they lose subscribers. that's how economics works. Carriage fees accounted for 80% of their revenue. It's estimated that 80% of cable subscribers didn't watch espn. That's a lot of money to make up through subscriptions.
  3. it's not espn's content.well I guess those annoying talk shows are theirs. they just own the rights for now.
  4. again that number of subscribers is misleading. they package espn+ with disney and hulu. I get that package and have never opened the disney app. How many never open the espn+ app? There are believed to be around 5M paying the $9 per month for espn+. do the math. that's like $600m a year compared to the $8Billion per year they get in carriage fees. they are deathly afraid of having to go streaming. that's why they are looking for partners. even with the leagues. I guess signing on with gambling companies will help them. ESPN doesn't create the content. they are just the dumb pipes that bring it to us. Lucky for them they own the rights but it won't be forever.
  5. they only have that many subscribers because they were tied to hulu and disney+ package. their standalone subscribers are believed to be around 5M at like $9 per month
  6. nobody is buying the sunday ticket. it's $300. google knows they way overpaid for it. that's why direct tv walked away.most only want the redzone channel. I totally get that streaming prices will go up considerably for college fans but ESPN was able to charge every single cable subscriber in the US $10 per month. That's $8Billion a year. I don't care how many sec fans there are it won't make up for carriage fees losses even at $300 per year. during the zero interest rate environment companies were way overpaying for content especially live sports content. those days are gone. you will see those companies raise prices and cut costs.
  7. people will just go to youtube tv. how much bargaining power do you think disney will have with google? it's a slow death for cable companies and the carriage fees. espn will have a stream option that they will have to charge $40 per month (and hope nobody who currently watches their content balks at the price)just to breakeven with what they are losing in carriage fees.
  8. markets won't matter anymore when everything goes to streaming. only subscriptions will.
  9. the way of the future. teams will get paid what they are worth. it will all depend on how many subscribers you can get and what price they are willing to pay. it will be that way for everyone. carriage fees are over. tv markets don't matter anymore. how many subscriptions you sell will. unfortunately I don't think our fan base is willing to pay all that much. we have people on here that complain about paying anything to stream the games and these are supposedly diehard fans on a message board.
  10. just want to see players and coaches pissed off to lose. I want to see them expect to win. Scott expected us to lose. had multiple reasons lined up even before the season started.
  11. they aren't prohibiting anyone from fielding a college football team or starting a competing conference(league). how come anyone who wants to can't join sec or big 18?
  12. why arbitrarily cut off at 54? why not go to 108? The reason they don't just take over the acc and big 16 now is because they don't want all 63 teams in their league. not only would the quantity dilute the product quality but the revenue splits would be lower. simple economics we probably don't make the cut but neither does ucf or the other undesirables from big 16. nor does most of the acc. heck fsu was publicly begging for an invite and got crickets.
  13. football will break off and if they really wanted to pick off kansas, unc, etc they could. the big 16 and acc have absolutely no leverage when it comes to sec and big 18. the big 16 had their quality programs picked off already. Texas, Ou, Texas a&m, missouri, nebraksa what remains is just the leftovers that they don't want.
  14. again , there are plenty of players. will the quality go down if they added teams? Yes just as it would in college the more teams you add. you think the QB at the 54th best program will be as good as the one at Ohio State? you are making my argument for me. I'm the one that thinks they will want less programs(ie better quality) and more money per school. You get that by limiting the quantity.
  15. we were left out of the club. same thing they will do to the dead weight if they reorganize into say a North and South conference. even if they kept those 4 it would still be 38ish teams. they aren't going to add a bunch of lesser big 16 or acc programs just for the sake of quantity. I still stand by the fact that almost all of the ACC and big 16 will be left out.
  16. Brett McMurphy reported that the 4 pac schools will get a full $42m in 2024. oh and the media had to agree to them getting a full share in 2025 and beyond as well or the total per school would have dropped considerably. there is no reason why the same can't be done with the aac and the top of the mwc
  17. so you don't think there are fans of UF or FSU that didn't go there? Heck I bet there are plenty of USF students that are currently fans of those teams.
  18. what happened to washington state and oregon state? what happened to arizona, asu, utah, and colorado? what happened to us when the BE dissolved? we were all left out. same can (and has) easily happen to dead weight of a conference if they reorganize.
  19. if there is enough talent to fill college football then it stands to reason that there is enough for the nfl alabama, texas, etc will not want to split $$ with the 54th place program. they will not just add big 16 members or leftover acc members just for the quantity.
  20. if quantity were all that valuable the NFL would have 60 or 70 teams at least. I could see those 5 moving up maybe with kansas but then vandy, purdue, northwestern, rutgers move down. that puts you at 34ish
  21. they won't want to split the pie that much. the NFL would have 54 teams if it made financial sense. there is a reason why major pro sports leagues have between 30-32 teams
  22. most of the ACC and all of the big 16 will be left out also. Heck fsu was publicly begging sec or big 18 to throw them a lifeline.
  23. the buyout doesn't come close to covering the 4 pac schools and the 4 others. why couldn't the aac do the same with their buyout money from houston, cincy, etc.?
  24. they won't get to 30 each. maybe 30 total. they will get rid of the dead weight programs and eventually break off.
  25. it's exactly the same situation if the media partners agree to it. Pac schools are getting a full share in big 12 and the aac teams are getting half. the buyout had nothing to do with adding teams. they were getting that money whether or not they expanded.
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