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1 hour ago, Cat941 said:

Report: UNC Viewed as SEC, Big Ten's Most Attractive Expansion Target from ACC

BLEACHERREPORT.COM

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If the ACC ultimately disbands or loses some of its major programs in...

 

 

I get that conference execs want to hold these conferences together to make money. I would still like to see all the non-p2 conferences dissolve and go back to regional conferences.

1 hour ago, Bullumni said:

Just read a tweet from Darek Sharp where he suggested we might be in, and unfortunately traveling to C to play them on their home court.  I would have thought that we would have hosted them, but this is a topsy turvy season.

Is C a decent team this year? 

31 minutes ago, jmbull said:

To think if we would have been this decent after Willie left us. It would be us getting the 12 or 13 mil a year. Instead we are stuck playing Charlotte and rice. 

If we made the investment while CJL was here….

49 minutes ago, Bear said:

Even before NIL, I wanted CFB to have salary caps on head coaches. 

Especially, since most of them are technically employed by state-funded instiutions. 

This would have prevented the P5 from grabbing head coaches after a successful season (I was salty when we lost Taggart to Oregon). 

Yea, less about chasing the bag and more about staying where you can be successful. I agree. Salary caps for everyone but me!

2 hours ago, Bear said:

How funny would it be, when FBS ends up with a P5 again. 

Imagine: P2 revenue dips (because of their exlcusionary money grabs); the ACC collapses like the Pac-12; so the remaining ACC teams basically merge with the AAC (similar to the Pac-2 scheduling with the regional MWC) because the SEC/B1G snatched up a couple good ones. 

However, networks realize that regional games actually bring TRUE fans (and make non-football sports manageable). 

 

And then, by sheer lawsuits, NIL (or even unionization), regional travel, and non-athletic booster money (or some political influence) -- the P5 is now: Big10, SEC, Big12, ACC+AAC, and Pac-2 + MWC. Media deals are renegotiated (with the Big12; ACC+AAC; and Pac-2+MWC have nearly the same revenue?

 

So anyways, this is my worse case scenario if USF doesn't get called up within the next 3-5 years. 

Why wouldn’t ACC leftover and PAC leftovers just merge together and pluck the best remaining schools from G5? Effectively having a P4 and a G4. The gap would be even wider between the P and G conferences at this point.

1 hour ago, Gismo said:

Based on the numbers, no one is jumping from the ACC to big12. 

BUT 

If FSU and maybe others jump to the SEC or the Big 10, do the ACC numbers fall to below the big 12 numbers? 
 

What will be left in the ACC probably won’t add much value to the Big12 to make it worthwhile for the big12 anyway. These big12 homers on x-twitter are deluded. 
 

The ACC will snap up some American conference schools and call It a day if they lose members. Just like they snapped up the PAC schools. 
 

 

The only thing I see them jumping for is Pitt for the WVU rivalry.

After that, it’s a crap shoot. NC State possibly? Is Ga Tech successful in basketball? Syracuse has had success in the past, but now? Wake Forest too, a little recent success in football.

I feel like both the ACC and the B12 have reasons for raiding each other, to help pad out the isolated schools for less travel. They have a reason for wanting to raid each other first before going G5, of course.

It is like a game of chicken though, and it all depends on who and how many are poached by the P2.

i do like the idea of Pro-rel though. I wish that would gain more traction.

1 hour ago, MMW said:

This got me thinking.  Clearly tradition is out the window and it's all about the money, how long before schools start selling their mascots?  Like the fighting Irish mascot wearing a Guinness T-shirt.  Texas could promote the Texas Longhorn Steakhouse.  

USF has Beef O’Brady’s I guess. Seems fitting.

6 hours ago, Cat941 said:

New school mascot, The Fighting Kylo Rens.

21 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

Good article, but I question the $7 number.

$214,795
Our back-of-the-envelope calculation on how much more basketball revenue the Bulls have gained through improved attendance. We get that number by adding last season’s reported figures for ticket sales and novelty/parking/concessions and dividing it by the total attendance. That equals $7 per fan. Multiply that by the overall increase in attendance (30,685 fans), and you get our good-faith guesstimate.

I think tickets were more per fan overall this year counting the price for tickets for the later games.

5 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

 

This guy is a broken record. He repeats the same stuff with slightly different syntax.

1 hour ago, 350_BULL said:

Well looking at Wikipedia.

Looking since 2013-2014 (Not counting COVID AND counting Louisville's vacated titles)

You have 9 samples.

So 5/9 times that regular season champs won the AAC tourny as well.

Taking it a step further looking at the 4 times where regular season champs didn't win both:

2 out of those 4, the regular season champs made it to the AAC tourny finals but lost.

The other 2 of those 4 the regular season conference champs made it to the semi's.

Sooooo... the worst a regular season conference champion has done is reach the semi's of the tournament. I like those stats.

Thank you for this breakdown, I like those odds to. Also, I feel like CAAR will work hard to correct the mistakes that hurt us on that loss to Tulsa.

1 minute ago, Cat941 said:

Miami?  

PAC2 back from the grave to swoop the leftovers from the B12 and ACC.

4 hours ago, belgianbull said:

That is great news. Beating Memphis in the semi final might be enough for us.

It will be a nervy week. Great to be this close.

I do have a question,

how often does the regular season conference champ also win the conference tourney?

2 hours ago, belgianbull said:

Probably would look something like this. ACC East; USF, Tulane, Syracuse, NC State, Boston College, Wake Forrest, Virginia Tech, and Duke.   

ACC West; SMU, Memphis, Cal, Stanford, OSU, WSU, San Diego State, and Boise State.

Maybe also the service academies to round it out.

Would suck for the service academies to get screwed over, but they cannot participate in NIL, right? So, how will they ever compete for any conference championships?

It is wild to think that we won the conference, were ranked, and still are not considered for a bid. I just don’t understand how basketball invites work.

3 hours ago, 2000bull said:

It’s the same country that named us south Florida 

Maybe they hadn’t explored all of Florida at that point?

24 minutes ago, Gismo said:

The southwest conference is just the state of Texas + Arkansas and OU lol. 

What is the definition of west in this country? Like technically that portion is called mid-west. That logic tells me that there is either a near-west (or east-west), a mid-west (central-west), and a far west (or west-west).

3 hours ago, DontPushMe said:

Should leave the AAC immediately. There isn't a single worse conference. I'd sooner join the sun belt

That…that’ll show them!

51 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

 

I see we are at the negging phase of the pickup artist.

49 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Heck if that is the Cade then USF is already set in the AAC. Might as well dominate the AAC and continue growing the fan support. Plenty of other programs will survive if SEC & Big Ten run away.  College sports will be more pure without them anyway 

Maybe we should @Fold FB Invest in BB at that point?

3 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

It's real but it's not as big of a deal as the Twitterverse makes it out to be. It just gives a firm length for conference membership on paper. The real gate is now the Grant of Rights. Schools looking to move have either time it with the GOR like Texas, Oklahoma, and all the departing PAC schools or fight it legally like FSU is attempting. 

So, if the conference is around for that long, all those schools have their spot in the conference guaranteed?

17 hours ago, flsportsfan83 said:

that 2012 team was better imo. They had much more impressive wins. Including a real good Louisville team. 

I wonder, how good would an “all-time” USF team be? Like, if we had the best all around time cobbled together over our history, would they make a deep run in NCAAT?

52 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Now the rumor is that Utah will end up joining ACC. So USF, UConn, Utah and probably Kansas 

Please let this happen. Would love it more than anything, for us to go into the ACC and the B12 to be put on the back foot

48 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Wait, what is this 99 year deal exactly?

2 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

We have to push that thread up to 10000 pages before the season begins. A lot of work to do this off-season.

CAG and CAAR are doing their part! Let’s hold our end of the bargain. @Cat941, we are going to need more tweets!