NewEnglandBull Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Wow that’s a big number by percentage especially when I doubt the contract covered a deduction in circumstances like these. I know people have pointed to other things as a sign of culture shift but it’s pretty easy to play lip service to the right platitudes and it’s a whole other thing to voluntarily come off of your wallet when you have a binding contract. Good on you CJS for being the change you want to see and not letting the entire budgetary axe fall on the non contracted employees as it so often does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted October 14, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,324 Reputation: 1,273 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Was that voluntary or part of a larger mandatory reduction in the Athletic dept. budget? I thought that we had seen a proposed reduction for all personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said: Was that voluntary or part of a larger mandatory reduction in the Athletic dept. budget? I thought that we had seen a proposed reduction for all personnel. When you have no contract your employment and your pay is at will. When you have a contract my approach for someone I didn’t intend to do future business would be you want to renegotiate? Sounds great I would love to get more money. Oh you meant less? Ya that’s not happening pay me the agreed amount or my lawyer will begin exercising our breach clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted October 14, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,324 Reputation: 1,273 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2020 USF athletic department announces layoffs, salary cuts due to coronavirus The department’s highest-paid employees must take a 15% salary cut for the rest of the fiscal year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said: USF athletic department announces layoffs, salary cuts due to coronavirus The department’s highest-paid employees must take a 15% salary cut for the rest of the fiscal year Yes it says that they accepted them but legally they can’t be required to take less than their contract unless there was a triggered action in their contract. Salaried employees and hourly employees can be told every moment they work from this moment forward will be at whatever amount is unilaterally decided and their only option is to walk but when you have a contract you are getting paid the what was both agreed to for the period of time prescribed with the only outs being what is clearly defined with exact causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj796 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 483 Reputation: 235 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/17/2016 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, puc86 said: Yes it says that they accepted them but legally they can’t be required to take less than their contract unless there was a triggered action in their contract. Salaried employees and hourly employees can be told every moment they work from this moment forward will be at whatever amount is unilaterally decided and their only option is to walk but when you have a contract you are getting paid the what was both agreed to for the period of time prescribed with the only outs being what is clearly defined with exact causes. This is absolutely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted October 14, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,324 Reputation: 1,273 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I just wondered, since they are public employees, how solid that contract is on points like that. I worked in the public sector and when the Great Recession hit and budgets collapsed, union contracts got real pliable if a city or country declared a financial emergency. It's a small point that I don't care about. I just thought I had read that it wasn't going to be voluntary and would be department wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 721 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Screw the pay cut. He should tell them to pound sand. Why should he take a haircut in his pay when he's doing more work? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 41 minutes ago, The Sheriff said: Screw the pay cut. He should tell them to pound sand. Why should he take a haircut in his pay when he's doing more work? Ridiculous. I’m assuming because of optics, maintaining the relationship and the fact that there are people directly and indirectly under his charge that have no option but to be impacted and that decision would increase the impact on them and further sour what is I’m sure a less than ideal work environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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