CincyBull

Then ACC will take Uconn, Louisville, Cincy... Rutgers will be in Big10. Leaves USF all alone. Our only hope is a move by the Big 12 for a FL school. Not sure why you think they'd pick Cincy over USF. Doesn't make sense on a lot of levels. I don't think USF gets in to replace Maryland, but I definitely think it gets in to replace GT or UVA. Can't say I have any facts or figures, but USF is overall a better choice than Cincy. I'm curious as to why you think USF is more attractive than Cincy? Cincy adds a market to the ACC (#34 biggest market in the country), USF adds no new market Cincy opens up Ohio recruiting to the ACC (one of the top 3 recruiting states in the country) vs 2 FL schools already in ACC Cincy has higher rated academics USF is a larger school (enrollment), but UC still has 42,000 students Cincy has stronger basketball history (2 national titles, 26 tournament appearances) vs USF's 2 appearances Cincy has recent success in football (won 3 of last 4 Big East titles) Not saying Cincy is a lock to be picked up over USF, or that either of them will be picked up at any point by the ACC, just curious as to what your reasoning is behind why USF is such a better choice. I love both schools, I hope both land somewhere great (preferably together), just have to politely disagree with your overall statement. I disagree with your statement that adding USF doesn't add a market. We can quibble about how much of the Tampa market FSU and Miami capture, but Tampa has hosted Super Bowls and anchors central Florida. There's a strong demographic shift in the U.S. going on, to the south from the midwest. Also, keep in mind that the ACC has Clemson, Wake, North Carolina, and NC State - FOUR Carolina schools, three in North Carolina. One could make the argument that the ACC doesn't need all of these Carolina schools. If the ACC were inclined to follow the demographic shift and expand into a major metropolitan area, Tampa would get the nod over Cincy, to add just a third football school in one of the largest states in the union. USF also has a strong reputation in research, and neither school is AAU (although I bet USF will be within 10 years). While I'm not a fan of RJS, in the interim it is a better stadium than Nippert, and USF has room to grow, whereas I've heard Cincy doesn't. Those are some of my thoughts. Ultimately, like everyone else on this board, I'm just reading tea leaves. I have nothing against Cincy, although I love USF more than Cincy so I hope I'm right and you're wrong. UC is top 20 in research, USF is top 50. But yes, both have strong research ties, especially with USF creating CAMLS recently, which is incredible. I'm not sure what you mean by "room to grow", if you care to elaborate. And stadium wise, it's all up to personal opinion, Ray Jay is big, great concessions, easy to get around, but Nippert has an atmosphere that not many places in college football can come close to. But if stadiums are a concern, UC has already been in talks with Paul Brown Stadium (Bengals) to use PBS if UC were to move to a larger conference. So, I get what you're saying, but unless I'm not seeing something, I think research and stadiums are both a wash. With regards to location, I think only the head of the ACC could really answer on which works best for their future, we can all discuss it, but unfortunately no one has any clue as to what's actually going through the minds of the few at the top at this moment. I just hope both USF and UC cut a great deal that benefits both schools in the future. Both are fast growing schools with so much potential and upside, both located in great cities with plenty to do, and both with growing fan bases that are excited about their programs.

Then ACC will take Uconn, Louisville, Cincy... Rutgers will be in Big10. Leaves USF all alone. Our only hope is a move by the Big 12 for a FL school. Not sure why you think they'd pick Cincy over USF. Doesn't make sense on a lot of levels. I don't think USF gets in to replace Maryland, but I definitely think it gets in to replace GT or UVA. Can't say I have any facts or figures, but USF is overall a better choice than Cincy. I'm curious as to why you think USF is more attractive than Cincy? Cincy adds a market to the ACC (#34 biggest market in the country), USF adds no new market Cincy opens up Ohio recruiting to the ACC (one of the top 3 recruiting states in the country) vs 2 FL schools already in ACC Cincy has higher rated academics USF is a larger school (enrollment), but UC still has 42,000 students Cincy has stronger basketball history (2 national titles, 26 tournament appearances) vs USF's 2 appearances Cincy has recent success in football (won 3 of last 4 Big East titles) Not saying Cincy is a lock to be picked up over USF, or that either of them will be picked up at any point by the ACC, just curious as to what your reasoning is behind why USF is such a better choice. I love both schools, I hope both land somewhere great (preferably together), just have to politely disagree with your overall statement.

Brian Kelly is a horrible recruiter, he wins off former coaches recruits... same thing happened in Cincinnati, and when he left, he left the cupboard completely bare, hence the 4-8 season after he left there for ND. His only hope of sustaining success at ND is the fact that ND recruits 5 star players just off their name alone, but he self admittedly said at Cincinnati that he doesn't like to recruit and that it isn't a strong point of his.

Auman says Eveld will start....

great game, the wind and mist didn't make for a comfortable evening, so I'm glad the team made it worth it coming up big on PKs.. looking forward to Sunday! Go Bulls!

3-2 loss to Depaul today eliminates USF from the tournament

Now down 0-3...

Currently losing 0-2 to Depaul in the first half (who is 0-6-1 in the Big East)... a loss in this game and USF won't make the Big East Tournament

i can't lie.. this team is WAYYY worse than the 4-8 team i had to endure in Cincinnati a couple years ago... and that was a nightmare season to watch.

un-freaking-believable. they hand the game over on a silver platter and we still find a way to blow it.

WHYYYYYYYY WOULD YOU CALL THE TIMEOUT!?!?!?! THE CLOCK STOPS AT A FIRST DOWN!!! O. M. G.

great start to the drive.

absolutely pathetic. ball state x2.

there's your dumb penalty.

PLEASE hold on. i don't need to see another Ball State finish.

nice stop. up to the offense now.

nice. shoulda just taken the lead. need the D to hold to have a shot... =/

new game plan... run hard and only throw to price.

woulda had the first down there... calls timeout to stop the play... now watch them not convert this....

of course there are flags on the return.. why wouldn't there be?

i think the saddest part is, watching this game has shown me one thing is for certain.. louisville is not that good of a football team. they're very beatable.

is this real life..??? it was an INCH...

i don't think anyone on defense has an idea where they're supposed to be.. any time there's a pass there are just 3-4 defenders running around different directions looking like chickens with their heads cut off...

and then let louisville drive like it's nothing.

good pass/catch