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BOOM JULY 25, 2012 Point-counterpoint: Are the UCF Knights invading the USF Bulls' recruiting turf? Facebook 0 Email Share 0 My esteemed colleague, John C. Cotey, disagreed with some of the assertions I made in this story in today's paper about whether UCF recruiting is gaining on USF in Tampa Bay. So we hashed it out below. What do you think? Is UCF invading this area? Or is it much ado about not much? And where does the recruiting battle go from here? COTEY: Well, Matt, the good news: no hate mail yet. I know USF fans tend to be a little sensitive on the subject of this “war†with UCF, but I wouldn’t be too worried if I were the Bulls. Not yet, anyway. I’m with them on this: I think the UCF thing is a little overhyped at this point. BAKER: So if you’re a Bulls fan/coach, you’re not worried? Even though UCF has gained its first two USF targets from Tampa Bay in a decade? And that the Knights are a finalist for one of the area’s top players? And that they have a new assistant - a well-regarded recruiter - who happens to have ties here? And that if the current rankings hold true, UCF’s class will be ranked higher than USF’s for the third time in the last four seasons? COTEY: Guess it depends on how much stock you put in rankings and stars. I put more stock in Top 10. But when you get to being No. 60 or 61, not so much. BAKER: Good point. Rivals’ Chris Nee said UCF has a deeper class right now, but USF has more talent at the top - starting with Winter Park QB Asiantii Woulard. When I started researching this story last week, UCF had the No. 48 class, and USF was around 62. Yesterday, the Knights were 60, and USF was 61. For whatever that’s worth. COTEY: Hmmm. See you conveniently left out that fact. Listen, my point of view is this: I don’t think Richard Benjamin or Pete DiNovo tip the scales. I really don’t. Both super players, but I think USF fans will take Woulard at QB all day long. Now, factor in Shaquill and Shaquem Griffin, who may commit on Friday, and Bailey, and boom! Right now though? I’m holding off buying any UCF gear. BAKER: Don’t blame you. Gold isn’t your color, anyway. You’re more of a chartreuse guy. But we agree there. USF would rather have Woulard and WR D’Vario Montgomery (four-star recruit from Orlando last year) than DiNovo and Benjamin. The issue is whether DiNovo and Benjamin start a trend. Quarterbacks are your best recruiters, and DiNovo is well-connected. What if he gets the Griffins or Alvin Bailey to follow? Or WR Artavis Scott, a top 2014 prospect? COTEY: If they get Scott, I will be attending graduate school at UCF and gold will be my color. (I jest....kind of....maybe not...). But UCF may have the better facilities at this point, and will be in the same conference, and are one head coaching change from truly scaring me. However, the prettiest girls? At USF, where I met my wife. (Now excuse me while I forward her the link to this passage.) BAKER: Aww, how sweet. Anyway, the conference is a key point. That was an advantage the Bulls had over UCF - a BCS conference with nationally televised games, even if they’re on weirdo nights. Now that’s a wash. So here’s my question, Cotey: Where does this go from here? Does UCF remain a part-time player in Tampa Bay? Or are the Knights invading for good? COTEY: I think UCF continues to hit the area hard, and I think the team’s success this fall and the next (its first the Big East) ON THE FIELD decides this fight for now. Does DiNovo earn playing time? Does Benjamin flourish? So many questions, so much time. And in the recruiting game, it changes so fast. Personally, who gets who is only semi-interesting to me. But what happens when the teams play each other? Now that is why this is getting so fun. BAKER: Yes, the proof will be in the standings. UCF and USF have similar statures - solid programs with flashes of greatness, somewhere between the UF/FSU/UM powers and the FAU/FIU bottom feeders. If the Bulls or Knights make a charge this year and compete for a conference title, they’ll pull ahead of the other in recruiting. If not, I think they’ll continue to pick off each others’ targets in Tampa Bay. See, Cotey, we can agree on something. COTEY: FIU beat UCF last year. Just thought I’d throw that out there. Checkmate. http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/hometeam/content/point-counterpoint-are-ucf-knights-invading-usf-bulls-recruiting-turf

just delete this thread already smh

how I really feel about this article

i dont have high hopes for pierre... at all... idk at 5'11" 200 lbs if he picks up the system I don't see why he can't contribute. He also runs a 4.4 40 but I have reservations on that. Look at his sophomore highlights http://www.hudl.com/athlete/121248/highlights/8326373

an Ode to Aaron Lynch

Doesn't surprise me. As a current student at USF I can tell you most kids that go to USF are from the Orlando area and I bet many UCF students are from Tampa (At least the ones that don't value their education). You could probably write the same thing about USF outrecruiting UCF in Orlando; kids wanna stay close to home, but not THAT close to home. since this new regime, we just dominate that orlando area.

I never knew Lynch played on special teams.

Lynch when he goes into beast mode

Lynch making another appearance

I see you went with the disclaimer - too funny. Soooo, did you make that tea-drinking gif yourself?? loool I had to man ppl kept complimenting me for something I didnt do lol and as for the gif I wish lol

sitting here quietly reading this thread

for the win!

,man, the stooges are gonna eat you alive for that post. Cue, Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk..... this thread is like a gift that keeps on giving. I give up on it!

Why is this thread still going on?! OMG!

My God do you guys realized that Sling and Shoot was mad illegal last year. The SKip Holtz sling and shoot camp is the name in order for it to be considered a clinic and not a tournament he could not attend. Now stop the BS will ya

I can't believe this thread even exists smh

totally appropriate here! He Bulled so hard!

Oh my! This is awesome!

those pictures are not mine they are a mock made by BleedGreen&Gold. I do not possess such photoshop skills. I just saved them because I like them. Although I like your idea. The Pics are still up but you have to be logged into Facebook.com to be able to see them

how the hell is this thread still alive?!

Capone those were photoshoped but bleedgreenandgold (a member on here) I liked them so I saved them. It's nothing official

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