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4 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Mack runs 4.5 in the 40 just a moment ago.

Solid.

1 hour ago, BullsFanInTX said:

These guys are not kids.  They are 22 year old grown men.  It's not like they are 18 year old freshmen that need to get babysat  If they didn't get to the gate on time, it's on them, and no one else.  When I was 22 years old, I was active duty USAF and had done several deployments.  If I had missed a flight, it was on me. 

Mom needs to stay out of this and let 22 year old men handle problems themselves.

Absolutely ridiculous that some are calling these men "kids" and that some think they need to be tucked in at night, and mom needs to come to the rescue if they don't get their milk and cookies at bedtime.

A lot of guys 22 years old have served 4 years of active duty and have deployed 2-3 times to the desert in harms way.  A lot of 22 year olds are married with kids trying to make ends meet (I was one many moons ago).  If they screwed off or fell asleep, who cares, it's on them, not USF's coach who forgot to babysit their butts and hold their hand on to the flight.

 

Just to be clear, I never absolved Geno or Troy from any blame. I think missing the flight was pretty much all there fault, which I've said earlier in the thread.

I really don't know why so many people care that I reference 22 year olds as kids. Whether I called them men, kids, students, guys, or whatever, I still put the blame of missing the flight on them. 

I also agree that the mom should be staying out of this.

20 hours ago, GaUSFBull said:

You think the media is the one overreacting here?  What have, or haven't you, been reading?  

The issue is the mother of one of these MEN coddling her son and impugning USF in the process.

It is a simple mistake.  However, one mother, who apparently wishes she could wrap her child in bubble wrap, has made it a much bigger deal than it should have been.

I mean, two kids missed a flight and it was reported by several major news outlets and posted all over social media. 

Think about how many positive stories about just some of the kids from USF that are written by Joey and Co. Rodney Adams, Quinton Flowers, Henry Beard, the list goes on. Those don't get any national coverage. But, this does.

Yeah, I think it's stupid and is an overreaction.

20 hours ago, Who'sYourData? said:

 You think they left the terminal in that?  

Considering I said "Which I don't believe", no, I don't believe they left the terminal.

I believe the fell asleep, which is what they said.

41 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said:

I always thought that old guys talking about the "kids of today" being babied are exagerrating.  But here we have people on a message board defending a couple of 20 year olds for missing a flight, when they were in the terminal, awake, minutes before their plane started boarding.

I mean, come on man.

We don't know where they were, they could've been away from the terminal (which i don't believe, but we don't know)

We also don't know if they were awake.

I will fully admit, that if they were awake, with the team at the gate, and STILL missed the flight, that's embarrassing. 

43 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

LOL  22 year olds who are a few months away from stepping out into the real world, one being babied by his mama.  

I don't think anyone would really care to "chastise" this "simple mistake" if it wasn't for the fact that USF has been embarrassed by this negative press, and apparently wrongfully so, in large part.

Do you agree that missing a flight is a simple mistake? If so, then the media's overreaction to the simple mistake IS NOT a reason to question the responsibility of college students.

Now, if you don't agree that this is a simple mistake, and you believe missing a flight is a serious mistake by these two. Then, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

5 minutes ago, Ned A Starr said:

The two players involved are both 22 year old adults, not kids.

 

Lmao, ok.

Just now, JTrue said:

1) What is Joey saying in this article that even remotely merits finding fault with him? 2) Didn't you say the kids didn't make the mistake here? You denied that they wandered away from the gate and were definitely not goofing off, going to a bar, a shop, etc. and you said they weren't randomly walking around the airport. 

I took the article as him questioning the story of Troy and Geno. Apis pointed out that I was overreacting a little and that Joey was just pointing out facts, not questioning anyones story. He's right, but I would argure he could probably find something a little more meaningful to research and report on, but not important.

I never said they didn't make a mistake. I just said I don't believe they wandered off. I think they fell asleep far enough away from the group that they weren't able to be woken up by someone, likely due to some help from some medicinal products. Which is a mistake.

2 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

I've seen college sports teams in airports.  And there are always a few that are doing just what I described.  Like you said, it doesn't really matter.  As for Joey, he just saying that the timeline doesn't make sense and for the record, this is not the players stories, this is one of their mother's version of the events.

I do see what you're saying. But, I still disagree. 

You're right about Joey, I shouldn't fault him much. More so the adults who continue to chastise simple mistakes of a college kid.

1 minute ago, BDYZR said:

So, two TWENTY-TWO year old basketball players get lost changing planes in LESS than an HOUR and it's the coaches fault?

I don't think anyone said it was "the coaches fault", all he did was accept responsibiltiy. However, no one is blaming him. I also don't think it would be fair to suspend these kids. They do a lot of traveling, and it is exhausting during the season, especially towards the end of one with the amount of turmoil they've had.

Mistakes happen, give them a break.

8 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

There's bars, restaurants, gift shops, girls...  I still stand by my assertion, that they were likely somewhere, away from their gate, messing around.

End of the day it doesn't matter. But, trust me, these kids don't give af about the bars, restaurants or gift shops at an airport. And I doubt it was crawling with ladies trying to flirt with a couple of 22 year olds at 10 AM.

However, I will say it's likely they weren't "right next to the gate". They likely sat maybe one or two gates over from the group to get away, not quite wandering around, and dozed off in the few minutes of downtime they had. 

I just think it's annoying for Joey Knight to put an article out questioning these kids stories when the alternatives (socializing around an airport) just really don't seem realistic in my eyes for a couple of 22 year old kids who just wanna get home.

1 minute ago, JTrue said:

Based on? 

These kids are used to traveling, i don't think they would just venture off in a random airport when they know their schedule.

I think the reason they missed the flight is pretty obvious, but my post was deleted. 

7 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

It's likely that they were somewhere away from the gate screwing off

Eh, doubt it. And at the very least, I wouldn't say it's "likely". Airports aren't exactly playgrounds, so I'd say it's doubtful they were randomly walking around an airport when they knew when their next flight was.

46 minutes ago, BullsBoltsJagsRays said:

If Heath was still coaching BB, and Leavitt was still coaching FB, would we have an OCS by now?

Lmaoooo

I don't know if firing Heath was the wrong call. I do know that hiring Antigua was.

lmao that's hilarious. 

We should be favored in every game. But i just don't think we run the table with a first year HC, idc who it is.

18 minutes ago, 206BULL said:

I think he mentioned that last years was set and not moving from Saturday. Considering he has no say in the dates games are played(thought he had say in OOC games but now we're playing Illinois on a Friday..); especially in conference it would be foolish. Just be happy it's not actually on Thanksgiving again this year. 

Wasn't the 2015 game supposed to be on Friday when the schedule was released too, only to be changed fairly last minute?

9 hours ago, DELdaBull said:

I like K900. What a response. 

lol that was awesome.

Should send that to CCS. Bet he wouldn't mind reading about Texas' struggles.

Would it be an issue that OKC's season will likely last into June, and our search process while ramp up sometime in April? 

Unfortunate, hope they're OK.

51 minutes ago, Thebullsfan said:

When does the coaches poll get released? 

I don't think they do a post season one.

2 minutes ago, BullsFanInTX said:

Mack now listed as the #5 RB (behind Cook, Fournette, McCaffrey, and Mixon) and a 3rd round pick.  If true, he made a great decision.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB

Ahead of Perine, Gallman, Foreman, McNichols, Connor, Pumphrey, etc.

 

 

 

I didn't expect to see this. Looking forward to following him throughout the process.

19 minutes ago, Thebullsfan said:

If Q get's us to a play off or up there then yes.

He's the GOAT already!!!