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The way I see it, he still has to beat out Plancher, Ponton, Samuels, etc........

...Williams.........  Quite a feat, a guy coming back from an ACL, a dope smoker who can only run straight, a guy who's never carried the ball before and a walk-on who was running on skates his last game.

Freaking all star team there. You're right, he's got to beat them out, all 3.9 yards per carry as a team last year......

You can make your point without being derisive about the kids we have already.  Mike Ford is undeniably the most talented back we have, but I am sure he will have to work hard on and off the field, something a lot of our kids are already doing.

I'm sorry, Francis, I was inaccurate?

The way I see it, he still has to beat out Plancher, Ponton, Samuels, etc........

...Williams.........  Quite a feat, a guy coming back from an ACL, a dope smoker who can only run straight, a guy who's never carried the ball before and a walk-on who was running on skates his last game.

Freaking all star team there. You're right, he's got to beat them out, all 3.9 yards per carry as a team last year......

You do realize that Howard had 5 assists in about 18 or so minutes of play? in his first game back from 2 acl injuries... or should I say his first game ever in college?

That means he's avg about 12 assists per 40 minutes... considering we've had PG's playing all of 40 minutes for the past few years and none have avg more than 6 assists per game... it is obvious how good this kid is, and just wait until he is at 100%.

Ummmmmmmm, that also means he's averaging 12 turnovers a game.  Before we give him the Jason Kidd award, let's make sure he stays healthy for 2 or 3 games in a row.

p.s. they don't handicap players in NCAA hoops.  Either u r 100%, or it doesn't matter. If he's not 100%, his ass should be sitting and getting healthy, so we don't have another Cann situation, where he was rushed back, got hurt again, and lord knows if he will ever play again.

USF is only 186? This must be an old program....

You guys are far from realists... you are doomists.  

That's pretty unreasonable, but then again, my wife thinks I"m wrong every day.

Help me out here, what fact based piece of information do we have here to hang our hat on?  I believe in hope, first there was the hope of the new blood - Verdejo, nada, Grandsberry, huge plus, Bozeman, good start, slumping now, Saaka, nonentity yet, Howard, thankfully playing but 5 assists and 5 turnovers in game 1.......so let's just say the hope of the new blood is fading.

second, we have hope for tomorrow, the sun will come up, there will be more games, more conference games with everyone getting fired up, but sadly, that hope is going away too, as we get POUNDED worse than we did last year when we won only one game.

last, and fatally, we have blind hope, which is the hope of nothing in particular but rather the avoidance of the obvious, hard choice that needs to be clearly made, but we're not tough enough to face the overwhelming facts, the obvious decision in the face of overwhelming facts and lack of hope in the other direction.

how in the world is that a "doomist", other than your parental right as an administrator to say, "because".....

SELF REPORT BOYS, LET'S GIVE THE ADMINISTATORS A BREAK!!

39 for moi, Go Mac!!

Louisville  

10

Gransberry 17

Gransberry 12  

61.5%  

There comes a time in your life when you have to choose sides. To be a "hanger on" middle of the roader has lead to the demise of this country and the attitude. This is just a prime example. My suggestion was only made in jest. SHE ultimately has made her decision. It's just too bad she doesn't feel the same way about USF. Or maybe she does? Gee, maybe it's a middle of the road decision. :

Agreed, it's this kind of BS lack of commitment that is at the root of USF's identity problem.  STAND UP AND BE AS PROUD OF SAYING YOU ARE A BULL AS YOU WOULD BE IF YOU WERE A BULL GATOR!!!

plus, she seems just plain dumb...any young male would have quickly come up with the answer, "........ummmm, where did i go to school?? ummmmmm, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, Florida, of course??!!" (.......of course splitting the fine hair of not saying University of Florida, maybe just identifying the state your college is located in, etc. etc...)

What does Zook promise these kids?

He just got a 5 star WR out of DC to go to a lousy UofI program

Sure isn't the women or the weather, you ever been to Champaign?

Didn't I see her entertaining in the spaceship at  2001 Odyssey?

Never mind, more nice work by that POS Deumig.

Clemson's Spiller says he won't transfer to champion Gators  

 Jan. 9, 2007

CBS SportsLine.com wire reports      

Freshman star C.J. Spiller will remain at Clemson, ending a wild day of rumors that had the talented running back transferring to national champ Florida.

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Spiller, whose family lives about a half-hour away from the Gators campus, told other media outlets he was "considering" a switch closer to home. But after meeting with Tigers head coach Tommy Bowden on Tuesday, Spiller thought it best to stay at Clemson.

Throughout the day, Clemson supporters waded through reports that Spiller had already enrolled at Florida and attended classes Monday. Florida coach Urban Meyer hinted about Spiller's situation, saying he couldn't say much but would know more when he returned from the Bowl Championship Series site in Arizona.

What do you expect, he's from ECU for god's sake.

Hey, ChiTown, I couldn't find that information for your fiancee on who our wedding planner was.  Good luck!

That's an omen..........

15 yard penalty, piling on.

We gather the young man isn't a model citizen, but under our Statue of Liberty recruiting program, give us your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses........

Apologist's answer, "Better overall record than last year, that's progress".

Realist's answer, "Last place, worst in the conference, out of the tourney again."

10-20, but for the life of me, i can't see where that one more win comes from.  

Steve Deumig, resident tool on 620 the local sports talk station in Tampa, is reporting that CJ Spiller from Clemson HAS enrolled at UF and will seek hardship status to play next year.  I've done a quick google search, because that's all the research this guy usually does, but haven't seen anything on it. Did anyone hear this last night or today? If so, good news for USF, I'd think incoming freshmen RBs would run from UF now.

i prefer Realists versus Apologists.

I got it, thanks, but I was saying that another JUCO guy for 2 years was a better option than giving Capko a one year schollie.

And I guess when the universe of serviceable JUCOs was sifted through, it was determined that it would be in the better interest of the program to try to land a four year prospect instead.  Second-guessing is easy.  There would be a number of people against another JUCO too.  

Points well taken, after all, these are just opinons here.  This board doesn't exist without second guessing.......

I am not against keeping score, but winning and losing is a fleeting high/low. Look at the Gators basketball championship last year or the Bucs SuperBowl win (see 90% of Buc fans and their feelings toward Gruden now). They are great moments but they are just moments and they pass by very quickly.

If you spend your life chasing those thrills (in anything sports, work, ect.) and are miserable when you cannot obtain them you are little better than a junkie looking for a fix. Its only a game and I appreciate a coach that tries to build a program the right way and teaches his players more than just how to play basketball.

I'd suggest you put away your Al Gore Guide to the Internet and button up your Michael Dukakis helmet and jump into the 21st century, comrade.  Either that, or take the rest of your commune north for socialized flu shots and all the yellow snow they can eat this time of the year.

Remember, it's better to have loved and lost, than forever to have had blue balls.  Carpe diem, Mr. Hillary.

Does winning and losing basketball games mean that much to you in your life? CRM is a good man and he is building a solid program that will turn the young men in his care into good men. Character and discipline are more important than Ws and Ls. I still believe he will turn the program around but it takes time and I think that you will find that a MTV, instant gratification winning program will leave a sour taste in your mouth eventually. Grow up and see college athletics as more than a way to elevate your own egos.

Good points. Why did we invest in a new scoreboard though, if scores are so inconsequential?

McCullum had two unused scholarships entering the year. At the time late in the process when Collin Dennis decided he was leaving, McCullum said he didn't feel it was a wise use of a scholarship to add someone at that point -- remember that it's a four- or five-year commitment to a player who has been largely unclaimed by lots of programs at lower levels than USF. So he puts Capko on scholarship, and he has a scholarship available to give to Holmes, who is more highly touted than anyone McCullum would have gotten in late summer as the last member of this year's class. I suppose a lot of people would say McCullum shouldn't be thinking long-term in his decisions, and depth continues to be a major issue, but this is how McCullum would explain his decisions regarding the roster.

Thanks Greg, for all those haters of CRM, if he indeed is in his last year people will thank him down the road because of his long-term decisions.  It sucks now, but if it's CRM next year or another coach the positive is last year he didn't saddle us with a bunch of chumps that were not BE worthy and his selectiveness left us room to sign Aaron Holmes.  Next year having a nucleus of Holmes, Verdejo, Bozeman, Curry, Howard, Jones, Saaka, Gransberry, and Williams will at least give either CRM or a new coach something to work with including extra scholarships to try and add the quality, and depth needed.

You missed that Capko scholarship this year in your analysis, great long-term move there, too.

He's a senior.  Hence it will be free for future classes.  Did you not get that or am I missing your point, or is it a shot at Capko?  I think Greg described it quite well.

I got it, thanks, but I was saying that another JUCO guy for 2 years was a better option than giving Capko a one year schollie.  I'd guess Capko would have stayed/played without the schollie, thus our depth would have been better this year and next, when it's so critical with Cann and Howard's known injury problems.  ( i do agree with keeping one bullet in the gun free, though, so when a Holmes kind of kid bites on our Statue of Liberty recruting technique, we can land him.)  No shot on Capko, I admire his guts, but he is what he is.  As for any sense of altruism, see Benjamin Williams, who's still not on schollie, as best I know.  

It's a cold world out there in reality, I"m the first to admit it.

chitown, appreciate it if you didn't make such an obnoxious bolding of Calvin's academics.  Calvin is a good kid and the truth be told those are not completely accurate.  He's working on getting his test score- which is all that's needed since he already has the core GPA and overall GPA necessary to get in.

Also gentlemen, be careful what you post because the family has been reading.

Everyone including his family believes he will make it.  He's been working after school to get the necessary test score and what's needed is not as big a jump as what's been alluded to or recorded on these websites.

Besides, Calvin Jr. is closer to 6-1 then the 5-10/5-11 these recruiting websites have him listed at, and he is actually 220lbs.  So now you're going to take those websites as gospel when dealing with his test score?

Trust me when I saw USF grabbed a coup here, and we beat a ton of legit BCS schools.  Hope Miami stays out, but overall some feel Calvin might have been one of the most under-appreciated recruits in FL...

Point well taken re: the family. Listen, if we all haven't learned by now that the only sure thing about those recruiting sites is that they're wrong, we're fools or UCFers.  As Boise State and Flutie Jr. have showed, willingness to succeed and coachability make all the difference in the world towards achieving one's goals.  God Bless this kid if he WANTS USF, we should all be cheering like hell for him, because I, for one, damned sure do not want to be on the other side of the line when he blitzes.  

And who among you out there never needed a "do over" on a test?

He may realize he's 21 years old, with no likely better option open to him to make loads of money and lay loads of pipe than to buckle down, use his 4-star physical talents, listen to his coaches and find a position he can excel in.

Let's give the guy a break.

McCullum had two unused scholarships entering the year. At the time late in the process when Collin Dennis decided he was leaving, McCullum said he didn't feel it was a wise use of a scholarship to add someone at that point -- remember that it's a four- or five-year commitment to a player who has been largely unclaimed by lots of programs at lower levels than USF. So he puts Capko on scholarship, and he has a scholarship available to give to Holmes, who is more highly touted than anyone McCullum would have gotten in late summer as the last member of this year's class. I suppose a lot of people would say McCullum shouldn't be thinking long-term in his decisions, and depth continues to be a major issue, but this is how McCullum would explain his decisions regarding the roster.

Thanks Greg, for all those haters of CRM, if he indeed is in his last year people will thank him down the road because of his long-term decisions.  It sucks now, but if it's CRM next year or another coach the positive is last year he didn't saddle us with a bunch of chumps that were not BE worthy and his selectiveness left us room to sign Aaron Holmes.  Next year having a nucleus of Holmes, Verdejo, Bozeman, Curry, Howard, Jones, Saaka, Gransberry, and Williams will at least give either CRM or a new coach something to work with including extra scholarships to try and add the quality, and depth needed.

You missed that Capko scholarship this year in your analysis, great long-term move there, too.

I can't agree with an analysis that claims our problems this year are mostly on injuries.  Last year maybe.  This year, no way.  Since the beginning of last year all we kept hearing was that Verdejo and Gransberry were going to take us to a new level.  We have been out of the past 2 games with our starters in.  Injuries would be taking a toll on our depth.  That means we'd fade later in the game.  Are you going to tell me that Capko getting hurt really hurts our chances in the BE?  That's silly.  I know the argument that Howard getting hurt again is the difference.  Well, first of all, how do we know?  He hasn't set foot on a NCAA court yet.  More importantly, with him out, Bozeman has received his chance.  He's second on the team in scoring and our leader in assists.  How much more productive will we be with Howard?  Even if Howard goes the the point and you move Bozeman to the 2 guard, does that make us more competitive?  I don't see it.  Sorry guys, this is the team that Mac put on the court this year to make us competitive.  This is pretty much as good as it's gonna get.  I'm trying to remain optimistic, so please someone out there explain to me which injured players we are missing this year that would make us competitive in BE play.

B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his name-o.

8-)

USFgrad84, you have my proxy from now on re: the basketball coach.  Well said.

I await the Apologist's response.