Never said anything close to Chambers being a thug. Dont know where you got that. BullDoug never said any of those guys couldnt be role models. Dont know where you got that? The Jim Rome stat was true, doesnt look good for your university no matter what angle you want to put it. My point was similar to S Bien's, there is bad apples in every bunch, we had our fair share. S. Bien and his story about Moffit sounds like you are sniffing someones jock. As for him living his life like this jock sniffing, website poster. Your right, I grew up in an city WAY different from Bushnell. You do not know the first thing about me. S. Bien you website posting, tamp tribune posting, bullseye.com posting, etc etc, etc loser. Some people do need to get lives. Lets start with S. Bien.