BiggTipp

After seeing everything with him: 

1. I don't think we could afford him.

2. I think the control he has been granted at Colorado was not on the table here. They completely changed their transfer policy for him.

3. I did not love his introductory meeting with the team, but that probably stems from my childhood. I grew up a 49ers fan. I only liked Deion for one season (1994 when he played for SF). I'm not a huge fan of the arrogance, even if he has been able to back it up (he is one of the greatest football players ever).

4. I think he can be successful, he just has a unique way of going about it.

10 hours ago, Outlaw said:

All he can do is prove himself to the fans is win. It isn't a splash hire, his credentials are questionable because VOLS forums say he doesn't call plays/some say he does, he is young and inexperienced,  he has no previous head coaching experience at the FCS/FBS Level, can he recruit, can he recruit defense, and can he hire competent coordinators? Lets hope this is the young coach that is willing to put in the extra effort to turn this around and sell USF . GO GO GOLESH!

Sean Barows…Associate Director for Baseball and Football at Tennessee says Golesh calls plays. Barows is also a USF grad

15 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Really he extended a coach he thought was going to be the worst USF coach in history and possibly the worst modern FBS coach? If so then AD MK is even worse then we imagined. He was extended with one fbs win and ended with one fbs win. 

That extension had no extra $$ or buyout $$ to it...only time. No extra financial loss at all there. Not a big deal at all.

12 hours ago, Triple B said:

Brian Jean-Mary had similar D, points wise, with Chuck ...

For one year...

9 minutes ago, smazza said:

he hasnt controlled the narrative and let rumors run wild

 

this guy is so incompetent

why cant he say who is not a candidate? 

he should have never fired scott in season if he didnt have a replacement.

How many schools with current openings have come out and said who IS NOT a candidate? Or for that matter, what school has come out and said WHO IS a candidate? 

I cannot think of any. All media leaks.

13 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

Most definitely! Meyer's college coaching record is amazing!

187–32 (.854)
12-3 in bowl games
7 conference championships
3 National Championships

Since you are talking numbers...You forgot 41...The number of Gators players arrested from the 2008 Natty team.

REPORT: 41 Members Of Florida’s 2008 National Title Team Have Been Arrested | The Daily Caller

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One tweet about Florida's 2008 national title football team is making waves on Twitter. It pointed out that 41 members have been arrested.

So maybe this is a bad take but I think I'll say it anyways. 

This team has not been to a bowl game since 2018. The most wins in a season since then was 4...Does it really matter who leaves, beyond a small nucleus of players?

Maybe I’m not looking hard enough but why was he the DC for only 1 season at SMU? Please link to info source if you have it.

4 hours ago, Orlando Bull said:

I think it's option 2 here. I believe that he and Cristobal were the finalists at Oregon, but they went with Mario. I suspect anyone who were to hire him in this day of cancel culture just sees it as being too much of a hassle. USF is the place that can set that right. 

I believe that he absolutely wants another shot at being a HC, or at least did. Maybe at his age, if southwest south Dakota technical college called, he may turn it down, but I don't think he would turn USF down. 

If we're doing metaphors, we are all drug addicts, Leavitt is that friend who can help, who has tried to help, who can get us clean again, but we have shut him out, if we let him in, if we let him help us, we could beat this affliction and get our lives together. 

Seems, at least from people on Twitter, that on multiple occasions, an olive branch was extended by the University to CJL but not reciprocated. They seem to be people that have some sort of inside info.

So maybe he doesn't want anything to do with it now...

11 hours ago, Brad said:

Things we do know

1. No hire is a guarantee of success
2. Pipe dreams likely include Deion Sanders coming here.

I'm all for being grounded in reality.  USF holds all the cards.  That's nice.  They can do with Leavitt whatever they want.  They don't have that option with Neon Deion or some of the other dream coaches.  And like Deion, here for a year and then a buyout and gone to greener pastures.  Wasteful.  We don't need that.  MK himself say we need continuity, consistency....there is a path to it.  His boss holds the key.

I'm all for "gone for greener pastures." That clearly means a winning product has been established and USF football is fun to watch again. I believe almost anybody other than Leavitt will leave after success. That method seemed to have worked really well for UCF. 

My two cents on Leavitt: 

He IS USF football. He was exactly the architect needed to build the team. He is loved for the foundation he created. First I would not want to taint that legacy. It would be terrible to see his come here and lay an egg. Y'all want a Leavitt statue or something renamed Leavitt field/stadium/facility/etc. ? Then don't bring him back as HC. 

Why is it he has not been a HC anywhere else? My thought is two-fold. He doesn't want to be a HC or no school wants to bring him on as a HC with the past being what it is (regardless of the truth).

Tuned into the broadcast yesterday and heard the flattest, most monotoned, emotionless Jim Louk I have ever heard. Feel bad for that guy. Gotta be tough to keep doing this week in and out.

12 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

Which show?

USF post game radio show. Darek Sharp said “If you have been clamoring for the Coach to lose his job, then you are probably gonna get your wish”

3 hours ago, smazza said:

our running game stinks

That's a dumb take. Our running game has been one of the few bright spots this year...

On 10/17/2022 at 10:37 AM, OhioBull said:

I have been silently reading the comments over the Tulane defeated and really I am shocked.  I don't feel likely people are seeing things clearly.  I see a team that is very, very close.  Florida was close, Cincinnati was close (I was at the game), and Tulane was close (until GB went out and still wasn't a blow out).  These are all very good teams and we were right there.  If you don't see this then it seems maybe all that is desired is to see the negative.  What I see is a team figuring it out.  Once they do, watch out.  I truly believe that.  Once this team gets over the hump I think many people are going to be shocked at quickly things change.  Don't give up hope fellow Bulls.  We are right there, just keep cheering to get over that hump.  It is going to happen and happen soon.  I think in the next couple of games it is going to happen.  Maybe I'm delusional, but I truly believe that.

Maybe the Offense was starting to figure it out but what about the Defense? Sure they have made a bunch of havoc plays against Tulane, BUT they also gave up 564 yds of offense amongst those havoc plays. 30...THIRTY first downs.

They are giving up 37.7 ppg., 221.1 rush ypg, 267 pass ypg for the season.  6 of 7 teams had over 400 yds offense and 5 of 7 teams have had over 500 yds offense. UF is the odd man out. They somehow held them under 400 yds offense with only 329 yds.

Maybe Marsh comes in and plays out of his mind with no stress of being benched...who knows. I can't find anything to lean on that says the Defense will be different.

Adapting to the strengths of the team you have. Two immediate examples I can think of below.

Urban Meyer's first years at UF: UF Did not have the players that UM needed to run the scheme that got him there (See Bowling Green and Utah) so he adapted the game plan to fit what was available.

Brian Kelly at Cincy: Specifically 2009. Their starting QB Tony Pike went down against USF and in came Zach Collaros. Their offense completely changed.

USF: 

Jim Leavitt: He was a great program builder. I do feel however that he had run his course here and was hitting a ceiling.

Skip Holtz: Maybe due to the roster availability but he tried to pigeon hole BJ Daniels as a pocket passer and had the outward appearance of a lazy recruiter.

Willie Taggart: He came in here with a West Coast, under center, run first plan that did not suit the roster. It took the players to finally come to him and say "Let us Cook" before things changed. This can also be an example of adapting on the fly because I'm pretty sure the playbook was constantly evolving that season. The second half of that season was the most fun I've had  watching USF football. They took it to a ranked Temple, DESTROYED Cincy. That developed into EXPECTING TD's on every drive in 2016.

Charlie Strong: To not watch film on what happened in 2016 and just "let them cook" in 2017 has got to be the dumbest football decision I have ever seen. Sterlin Gilbert was hot garbage. 

Jeff Scott: I don't even know where to start because nothing has really worked here. 

I type all this to say I think a HC needs to be able to adapt to what he has while recruiting for what he wants. Like Taggart always said. He recruits players to take jobs away from other players. 

59 minutes ago, jg233 said:

IMO you really only have two options, Taggart or Larry Scott...if you can get Willie back, you can fix it quicker but Scott may be the better long term solution.

Larry Scott is 1-5 this year at Howard…pass

8 minutes ago, BiggTipp said:

Let me see

No….

6 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Does Fubo have Bally SportsSun?

Let me see

How do we watch it? When I look at ACC Network on FuboTV it says the Pitt game is on at that time.

If they play with this level of aggression and clean up some mistakes, this team will be playing ball in December for sure.

I think the plays are there on offense. The timing with the WR's has been off. We are not a strong inside running team, but I also think that's been the case for several years, even in the Mack/Johnson/Flowers era. There are some playmakers on this offense for sure. We will see that throughout the season.

The only thing I see different with this defense is the blitzing...other than that, the product looks pretty much the same as last year. That is very concerning. The turnovers are nice, especially when they are effort turnovers, BUT if we don't make those plays...this game looks very different. 

In the last two weeks I have lost faith in CJS..I hope for my sanity's sake he gets it back...or leaves. Losing to BYU wasn't the problem...losing how they did is the problem. Winning against Howard isn't the problem, winning how they did is the problem. Year 3 and the issues haven't seemed to change much.

I cant necessarily say I expected better, but more like I was lead to expect better by all the preseason talk of being a different team. Hopefully this gets fixed and we are bowling at the end of the season.