Jim Johnson

11 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

Were the Batties on their way to hunt or target practice? No, so they were carrying illegally.

Those are not the requirements in Florida.  People who are legally allowed to own a gun (i.e. not a felon) can carry a firearm at all times as long as they avoid certain places.

Moreover, they are allowed to defend themselves (stand your ground).  So the Batties' decision to return fire is also not breaking the law.

14 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Mohl's best season and most talented  roster was from the previous coach.  He was not able to recruit  and/or develop talent to compete against the top of the aac. He is what his record says he was as a the usf coach. Hopefully he finds  a place to bounce back, because America loves a comeback story.  He wasn't the right fit for usf and it was overdue to part  ways.  

Oh, I am not disagreeing with the decision.

I am really just curious if expectations are higher than should be expected given the talent pool available.

I mean, Florida is such a football state, expecting HCAG to recruit outstanding talent is a given.  I just wasn't sure about the true level of baseball talent in Florida that isn't going to the MLB draft or to the likes of Florida, Florida State, Miami, or other out of state top programs.

I will admit that I know nothing about high school baseball in general... so perhaps the collective expectations ARE realistic.

11 hours ago, olafberserker said:

Yes and we are competing with P5 programs and the other D1 programs in Florida for it

Hence the need for A LOT of the talent.

2 hours ago, SilverBull said:

Our baseball always mystifies me.  We are located in Tampa, for baseball gods' sake, now have good facilities and I thought we had "Home Run Hires" before that could lure and develop local talent.  Still, each effort seems a swing and a miss.

Is there a lot of talent in Bay Area / Florida High Schools that ARE NOT gonna go professional out of high school?

It seems to me the "develop" part is where college coaches will spend a lot of their time... taking players that didn't enter the draft and making them better.

Plus, it's hard to get a lot of the best college baseball players with 11.7 scholarships - when another school might have more to offer a prospect.  (The NCAA is actually considering allowing conferences/schools to possibly offer all athletes a scholarship.)

1 hour ago, Rocky Style said:

It is weird that no one talks about them as one of the big names.  

Duke is not a big name in the only sport that matters in all of this.  Duke = Vanderbilt = Northwestern

22 hours ago, hm101 said:

Baller

Great football city

a little too cult-like though 

We're called a mafia, the Bills Mafia, not a cult.

4 hours ago, John Lewis said:

Why would ESPN want to pay more for those 2 programs when they have them locked up for another 10+ years?

To keep them locked up and not going to Fox/CBS/NBC.

30 minutes ago, USF_Bullsharks said:

Why? Speaking to the team? 

Podcast. 
 

12 days before kickoff. 

I would expect the first game to be 7:00pm on ESPN+ tho.

8 hours ago, John Lewis said:

I believe UF is moving to a new league 

Yup.  The Big 12 ... which will start playing in 2025.

22 hours ago, Sellular1 said:

Should have noticed my sarcasm font when comparing the size of Tulane student body to USF… and they only have 8,000 undergrads.

Gotcha, my browser has trouble displaying the sarcasm fonts sometimes ...

Just as a note, however, Duke has less than 7,000 undergrads.

On 4/12/2024 at 6:27 PM, Sellular1 said:

And the 5,000 students Tulane has???

Tulane has 14,000 students... more than Wake Forest and Boston College... and almost as many as Duke and Miami.

On 4/12/2024 at 2:13 PM, USF_Bullsharks said:

ACC only has 1 pro-rata addition from what others have said (4 in contract, 3 used already). So if they lose FSU/Clemson, would they only be able to add 1 at pro-rata or are those two seats considered vacant, therefore they will have 3 open full-share additions? I guess the answer to that is "nobody except the ACC knows", trade secrets and all that jazz, but I think it's just as good of a chance that the ACC adds 0 as much as it is they'll add 1, which are both more likely than if they add >1. Unless of course those pro-rata shares are available, and they offer half-shares and increase payouts to existing members, etc. There are so many possibilities. 

Speaking of tv contracts, everyone thinks the B12 will just add whoever they want all willy-nilly if the ACC opens up. Well, they spent their 4 pro-rata additions on the 4C schools, and would need at least one of Fox/ESPN to agree to pay more money for ANY additions to the conference between now and the next tv contract in 2030/31. 

Speaking of Utah, who did not sign the membership agreement (which basically just secures exit-fees contracted to members, it's not the GoR or some Texas-based blood oath and really shouldn't be discussed much), it is important to remember that they were given a full-share of TV revenue from the B12 (as did each of the 4C additions). So for the ACC to attract them, they will also need to offer a full share at the very least. You know who was not offered a full tv share? Calford/SMU. As much as Utah (and probably ASU) might make sense for the ACC long-term, there's very little chance that the ACC can provide a home for them unless they can convince ESPN to cover the costs of adding them.

When they lose FSU and Clemson, ESPN is going to renegotiate... so the pro-rata additions won't matter.

20 hours ago, Mike Stuben said:

If they lose 2, I bet they only backfill 1. (They are on an odd number currently). 

 

USF or UConn. 

 

But, if the Big 12 can't add any of the ACC, they may be more in play for us. 

They've been an odd number overall since 2014... thanks to ND.  Adding SMU made them an even number... except in football --> which was your point about being an odd number currently.

I bet they lose 2 and add 3... WSU and OSU to help with Stanford and Cal ... (on paper, a merger with the Pac 12 which lets the NCAA units transfer)... and then I hope that 3rd is USF to keep two teams in Florida ... but I suspect adding New Orleans might have just as much appeal.

35 minutes ago, USF_Bullsharks said:

My guess is Karter follows Cal to Arkansas. I doubt he remains committed to UK. I do think this slightly opens the door for USF - however slim (5%? 10%? 25%?), but a nonzero chance. 

15 minutes ago, MMW said:

Fair enough.  So why does FSU and Clemson hate being in the ACC so much?  Aside from this year they had pretty reasonable access to the championship game.

 

As @Outlaw said ... it's all about the Benjamins.

An extra $40-50 million per year means being competitive across the board.  FSU sees a day when their baseball ... girls soccer... and other sports (not to mention football) are among those left behind in their respective sports.

34 minutes ago, bowman1 said:

I stick by my statement regarding recruiting and player development 

Yes - Weaver, Horn and Boyles were all recruited to USF.  For whatever reason, they all felt that their path to the next level was better somewhere else.  Some (not all) of that decision was invariably based upon the player development that was happening at USF at the time

I counter to say this: the fact that Horne, Weaver, and Boyles left for greener pastures shows that CCS/CJS could recruit NFL-caliber talent and develop them enough so they had the opportunity to transfer.

If CCS and CJS (and their respective staffs) were that bad, none of their recruits would A) transfer to schools with better opportunities to showcase their talent ... or B) be considered draftable.

USF is not going to recruit more than a handful of potential NFL-caliber players under the best of conditions... heck, getting one per class would be outstanding in the AAC.

I think the terrible game management, terrible game planning, and all the losses have jaded you.

10 hours ago, bowman1 said:

Wow - our last draft pick was in 2018.  That speaks volumes about how bad the recruiting and player development was under CCS and CJS

Now now... Jimmy Horne and Xavier Weaver are going to be drafted for sure.  Spencer Schrader and Dwayne Boyles might. 

21 hours ago, aroth said:

I read that it takes 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. I’ve seen Swaim speculate to: FSU, Clemson, UVA, UNC, NC ST, Miami, ND, Pitt, Syracuse, and UL all wanting out of the ACC. Based on his reporting they have the numbers to disband, so they should do that and avoid all this legal mumbo-jumbo regarding the grant of rights.

Unless they don’t actually have the votes and Swaim is making it up as he goes. 

This is wrong... it took 12 votes before they added SMU, Cal, and Stanford.