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16 minutes ago, TallyBull said:

I agree 100%. TDS was too egotistic and political. Adults recognize that we all have opinions and don't always agree. Why alienate people, when you could just focus on what unites us - our passion for USF athletics? I tried so many times to listen to their pods (sadly, not a lot of USF pods out there) and read their content, but they often seemed to relish being obnoxious and fratty -  making TDS essentially unlistenable and unreadable. Also, I have it on good authority that USF higher-ups weren't exactly fans.

Interesting, all though not that surprising.

Fowler Ave sent out an email yesterday about starting to offer content to bridge the gap between student athletes and fans. Sounds like a lot of videos and interviews will be coming out. 

Weird time for USF coverage. No TDS, no 247 board, and the Times hates us. Thank God for The Bullspen.

In the Athletic article about Golesh that came out today a recruit mentioned Golesh showed him renderings of the stadium on his visit to USF

Is Alex Golesh the right coach at the right time for USF? 'We found our fit'

THEATHLETIC.COM

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USF is now No. 5 in the pecking order in its own state. How can the Bulls become relevant on the national landscape?

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“This is not a Group of 5 job,” Golesh said. “How we feed our kids and how we train our kids from a facility standpoint, this ain’t Group of 5. I’m not recruiting against Group of 5 schools. We’ve got the highest salary pool in this league. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t what it is. … I gotta go beat alleged Power 5 schools for kids or we’re not recruiting the right kids. We’re just not.

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At his core, Golesh believes his strength as a coach is evaluating recruits — knowing who to take and, just as important, not to take. He said recruiting and the transfer portal are the first things he and his staff discuss every day. 

“For us, Florida and Georgia have to be where it all starts,” Golesh said. “My unique background is the fact that I’ve recruited high school areas, but I’ve recruited junior college ball forever. That’s really kind of how I made my niche — junior college and transfers throughout my years.”

Where Scott dropped the ball was high school and junior college recruiting. Only 13 of the 45 he signed started a game for the Bulls, and only 22 are still on the roster.

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Golesh said he had dinner with Jim Leavitt and met with Willie Taggart shortly after getting the job. Honoring the past is one thing, Golesh said, but spending a lot of energy trying to recreate what Leavitt and Taggart accomplished as head coaches in Tampa is pointless. It’s a different era in college football, and Golesh said there’s only so much he can glean from their previous experiences.

"Golesh told me he’s going to win a national championship there. And I totally believe him.” - our top rated commit

Its felt like the past few years a lot more guys from Florida made it to the league. My first thought was Dwight's Magic and the Big 3 Heat were so popular 10-15 years ago basketball grew in the state. Or that timeline might better line up with when parents started pushing their kids to basketball because of concussion worries with football. However after looking at the numbers...

In the last 6 years (18-23) 34 guys have made it to the NBA that went to high school in Florida. In the 6 years before (12-17) 12 guys made it to the NBA that went to high school in Florida.

That doesn't include any of the IMG/Montverde academy type kids either...That's an additional 33 guys in the last 6 years and 7 in the 6 years before that.

So it may be more closely related to all these elite basketball players moving to Florida to play at an academy, and local players playing against that level of talent more often whether it be in local games, practices, open gyms, camps, etc. it has been a "rising tide lifts all boats" scenario. Regardless, great to hear Amir will be focusing on local recruiting.

I realize the first part of this equation (serious sustained success for a few years) sounds impossible for this team, asking to suspend belief for the hypothetical...

Tampa is the #13 TV market and has no NBA team and only 1 D1 men's basketball team within an hour of the city. 

The next biggest TV market with no NBA team and only 1 D1 basketball team within an hour of the city is Columbus Ohio at #32. But USF men's basketball is even more isolated than that, the next closest D1 university to Tampa is UCF, which is 104 miles away. To find a TV market that has no NBA team and only 1 D1 basketball team within 100 miles of the city you'd make it down to Albuquerque at #49. There is simply no comparable market that only has 1 show in town when it comes it men's hoops.

In football this isn't the biggest deal, since people have no problem driving 2-3 hours to their alma mater on a Saturday. But with much of basketball season happening on weeknights, if you want to go to a game you're staying close. 

USF basketball hasn't had back to back winning seasons since Seth Greenburg was coach 20 years ago. USF has never made back to back tourney's and has only appeared 3 times. Do you think if USF basketball strung together some success (3 straight NCAA tourney appearances with 1 of those being a sweet 16 run) the city would rally around them as Tampa's basketball team? Or is Tampa just not a basketball town and nothing sustainable would last (floor of program elevated, attendance never dips below 7/8k)

27 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

I dunno. During his Twitter "vent" a couple weeks ago, VPMK made it sound like he wanted to make an event out of things. With the likely BoG approval coming the week college football kicks off, I think the "event" is something tied into the first home game or the Bama game

18 minutes ago, 79 Bull said:

Is it possible that someone on the BoG goes rogue and puts up an argument that this is no time to be taking on such debt and not worth the risk?  I hope Brian Lamb has this all ready to breeze through with a unanimous rubber stamp.

GoBulls84 inspired me to go back and look. Kelly's comment here "I don't think its wise to release any general renderings until a higher level of deliverability certainty is achieved" is some interesting wording. 

I wonder if its related to 79Bull's sentiments on the board of governors meeting. Seems like thats the last hurdle and we should be in the clear...but if we released renderings now, and they told us to scale back the plan its too much $$$ it would be a disaster.

Better to wait and just get that locked in, then go forward and show off what it'll look like.

48 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

FWIW I've been checking the Board of Governors page every day to see if the agenda for the next meeting (August 29-30) is posted yet. I'm assuming it won't be until a week ahead, but you never know so I'll keep checking. State law only requires "reasonable notice" so conceivably that could be the day before the meeting, but I'd imagine it would be a week out.

lol i love it. i've seen people here mention late summer early fall when we can expect to see something. My newest tinfoil hat theory is next Wednesday/Thursday. Pretty sure those 2 days after the MLB all star game are the only days of the year with no major sports on TV.

Huge vacuum looking for something sports related to talk about...wouldn't be the worst time to throw out stadium renderings

20 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Just a guess that it is NOT a non profit.  Believe I was told that before making my donation  payment to them.

thats probably a good thing then. from what i've read the NIL's that are in tricky situations are the ones who have been claiming they are non profits and donations can be written off on taxes

https://thatssotampa.com/zydeco-brew-werks-mosi-tampa/

Mosi is getting a brewery this summer

8 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

CPA’s are next up with the lawyers after the IRS starts getting into the 501-3c definitions.

Name Image Likeness Collectives - Taxpayer Advocate Service

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NIL collectives are structurally independent of a school, yet fund...

 

Anyone know if Fowler Ave is for profit or non-profit?

31 minutes ago, Triple B said:

We can only hope, though .......

someone on a construction message board for Tampa claims there is a rumor there is a Vinik + Rays + Ybor play going on. Would make sense for why he'd need that much capitol freed up. Looks like it also came out yesterday Hillsborough is about to make the Rays a pitch about Ybor https://www.fox13news.com/news/hillsborough-prepared-to-make-offer-to-rays

Getting an MLB team 20 minutes south of campus wouldn't be a bad consolation prize

35 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Thought my wife mentioned that he sold to spend more time with grandkids. Not sure if that means he's retiring or just cutting back.

thats what the press release said and i'm sure plays a part. But he also sold off a minority share in the Lightning this month estimated in the hundreds of millions. Liquidating that much money in 2 separate transactions within that short of a time could lead one to believe he has a play in mind to use that money.

granted i'm not sure how or why USF would be involved

USF Receives Eight Proposals To Develop Forest Preserve

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Most of the plans include building apartments, hotels, and restaurants, but one hopes to preserve the land entirely.

When they were looking at redeveloping the entire 770 acre area it was definitely revenue generators:

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Responses from developers included multiphase plans to build housing, retail shopping, restaurants and hotels on the preserve. Some mentioned all of those things plus features like a large research facility or a 30,000-seat football stadium. Despite the plans being very preliminary, the university immediately shot down the idea of a new home for the USF Bulls.

The golf course is only around 150 acres I believe, but I'd bet on them having a similar strategy

44 minutes ago, E.T. said:

Are there limitations on what can be developed? Is it "protected" environmentally? 

I think the Claw was the one section of that land that could be developed: https://www.usforacle.com/2021/10/26/law-creates-advisory-committee-to-assess-development-of-usf-forest-preserve-the-claw/

An update on the USF golf course - FAQ

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University of South Florida

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When will USF decide how the golf course property will be used?

No timeline has been established.  No decisions have been made and no initial plans have been created for the future of the golf course site.  USF looks forward to determining how to repurpose the land to better serve students, faculty, staff and the surrounding area.

wonder if theres already plans for what its turning into

Any old timers remember what the hype around Leavitt was like when he was hired? Was that seen as a slam dunk at the time or a head scratcher?

13 hours ago, USF968 said:

I don’t get why she deleted it. Not a big deal .

2 hours ago, Bullsaficianado said:

Can we please get a new Bulls writer?

Death comes in 3's right?

This offseason we've lost Will @ 247 and now TDS. Maybe Baker's coverage of USF will be next.

1 hour ago, hm101 said:

• New MBB coach - took Kennesaw State from bottom feeder to the tourney
• We have 40+ new scholarship players in FB featuring plenty of ballers. Tons of P5's coming home. This is not the same 1-11 CJS team, at all, period. 

These 2 really get me hype.

For Amir people point to his record, but he's an even more extreme case of Willie have a losing record at USF with no context. His last 2 years there were the 2 best years in school history! Plus he had the best recruiting class in his conference after year 1 going 1-28. This dude has already pulled off a rebuild more improbable than turning around us will be, excited to follow the process.

And as for Golesh turning over the roster. I LOOOOOVE that he is grabbing guys out of the portal with 1 year of eligibility. It felt like Jeff Scott was 100% focused on setting a culture so we'd be great "next year", always getting underclassman out of the portal and preaching progress on a rebuild. Based on Golesh's recruiting I think he is going for as many wins as he can from year 1, no "year 0" nonsense.

coaches were shown plans of the stadium Friday

idk if that means anything in regards to when we'll get shown the plans, still wouldn't be surprised if its next month or next year

Splitting everyone out wiiiiiiiiiiiddddeeeeee and moving with tempo.

Defense doesn't have time to set up between plays. they need to know going onto the field that drive if they're going to keep some guys stacked in the box and leave each receiver 1 on 1, or put more guys into coverage and leave an open box. The offense is just way too spread out to try and disguise it like you're doing both.

The idea isn't pass happy, its to force the defense to leave a weakness each time that will be obvious to the QB by the time he's snapping the ball. Need a QB with a strong arm because the receivers route's will be so far away from the line of scrimmage regardless of if they are going deep or not.

It makes zone defense almost impossible too, as that relies on a lot of backend communication which they just don't have time for in between plays. Bama tried this against Tennessee last year and thats why their coverage kept busting, Hyatt had 6 catches for 200+ yards and 5 TD's. Once Golesh finds a soft spot in the defense he hammers it like a video game player discovering a glitch.

Weakness is if the other team can bring pressure with the down lineman and is better on the line of scrimmage. As then the advantages become moot points.

5 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

I think Outback would be a fantastic stadium naming sponsor. Just don't see the dollars you see. 

UCF gets 1.95 million a year for their stadium sponsor. If we get 2/3rds of that it would be about 1.30 million a year

My idea was based on the fact Outback was paying 8 million dollars a year to sponsor the Outback Bowl, so we try to get them to sponsor a lower level bowl game for 2 million dollars a year at the OCS.

Between those 2 contracts it would be the 3-4 million dollar range. I was combining them into 1 in my math. But I'm not even sure the bowl game sponsorship $$ goes to the owner of the stadium or the organizer of the bowl game so nvm