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Actually Selvie was a high school o-lineman @230lbs. No o-line @ that size would be highly ranked. The genius is that Leavitt was always good at taking those type players and figuring out another position where they could be good. Nate Allen is another of many examples.

I'm assuming you are being sarcastic?

Considering the short amount of time, our previous 2 year record, etc, I'm impressed.

+ 1

Lets take a formal letter of resignation in Doug Woolard's name and see if anyone can get his autograph at the bottom?

Not that it matters unless we are willing to pay for the billboard. I think they got where they are because they don't concern themselves with fairness, ethics or whatever. That's not the same thing as caring about your public image. But like I said, doesn't really mater.

They're reviled in Manchester, UK for their ownership of ManU. The locals there have tried very similar tactics but to no avail. I agree with Trip, you can't humiliate them when they're making all the money they are from both franchises...especially ManU...which I believe now has the highest valuation of any sports franchise in the world. All the more reason they could be humiliated, humbled or whatever. They have pride! You don't think having to see and be asked about a sign saying "Hey Glazers, Why do you keep taking millions from USF football?" wouldn't bother them?

The only way to hope for a change is to publicly humiliate them. For example: a billboard asking them to quit taking money from USF football and use it as a tax write off.

You were my rep as well. Always appreciated your help. What are you doing now?

Those are the key words!

It had been green & red for Christmas. Just went to look and it's currently alternating green & gold bands. Guess they did change it for the game. Lets hope AC & Ruud are ok soon.

I do feel better! Actually, I won't feel better til we are in a good conference and playing competitively again.

You started off okay, but individual cases where a psyched up underclassmen was inserted and showed some great energy making some plays doesn't support your cause that strongly. If nothing else it even goes back to coaching where Holtz wasn't able to bring out the strengths of upperclassmen (motivation) who had shown great potential and been given accolades as underclassmen. From their recruitment through their underclassmen years no one was questioning the talent of most of these individuals. If you were referring to our CB situation, that was a known talent issue. Are we talking about lack of actual talent/potential, or just how it was used? If it is how it was used, that again goes back to coaching and the ability to motivate/inspire someone to use their talent/potential. The rest of the response was pretty general and went back into beliefs. I'm having a tough time with this because it goes against common rationale that lead to the firing of Holtz. BTW, I also do not believe Grothe got incredible coaching while he was here. Agree. Plus, like I said, these players were recruited to play in a wide open, spread offense, scramble, get into the open field and use their speed & athleticism to make people miss. Skippy always reigned them in, trying to make everyone (including BJ) play inside the tackles, short drop back passing, etc. on defense, they were used to being aggressive, where Skippy made them play soft. Skippy was the opposite of a great coach who adapts his system for his players, but rather tried to adapt his players to his system. He started out with Leavitt's team and went 8-5, lost some of Leavitt's players and went 5-7, lost some more of Leavitt's players and went 3-9.... nuff said!

Also you can't judge the guys left behind. Leavitt recruited them with a purpose in mind, but Skippy tried to change everybody into HIS system and it cost him his job. Skippy even made the band look bad.

i think the decision will be made for usf if usf doesnt get picked up in one of the big 5 conferences usf will not be able to sustain a program the money will dry up Did you really go to law school? I have a hard time believing you even passed High School with some of the bonehead comments you make. USF will continue to sustain all sports programs. Our University pulls in a pretty decent amount of cash when compared to other Universities currently at our level. We will be in the Big Whatever until either there is a merger & renaming forming the "Best of the Rest" where we will reside until we can prove we deserve better OR Power 5 teams are poached from one another and they need a spot filled. Either way, it's not the end of the world. usf is currently in the minor leagues with little hope in sight this is a sports board this is suppose to be fun Tell us what you think USF should do. You clearly realize/appreciate things that we don't (or at least you believe this to be the case). All you seem to do is remind us of how ****ty our conference position is - needlessly antagonizing us, over and over again. You're right - this is a sports board and it should be fun. But you sure do make it hard to enjoy it. There's nothing we can do if we don't get into a big conf. When we start hosting conf games against Tulane, Temple, ECU, Memphis, etc, there will be 25k in RayJay. Most of you seem to want to remain in denial about this? It's fine to be a die hard fan, but be realistic as well, otherwise we just come across as silly. Anyone who thinks it's going to be business as usual is fooling themselves. Just like thinking Taggart is a long term hire vs Patrino who would leave in 2-3 years. The only reason Taggart will stay longer is if it takes him longer to make us good. As soon as we are 9-3 or 10-2 Taggart will get offers and leave just like Patrino! I don't think anyone believes we'll be selling out games against those teams. But I consider myself a die hard fan and realistic as well. Supporting your team whether they win or lose has nothing do do with being realistic or silly. I never said anything about supporting the team, just the comments like "well we didn't sell out at the end of 07, etc," as if this will be no different. It WILL be quite different!