Taggert has 1 more year

[slick1ru2]

So...how much progression did cwt make at WKU from his second to third year in any? And if little to none, why is everyone thinking next year will be so great?

[BullGrad95]

Taggart will not change his style. His offense does not work here and he will not adapt it. Adapt or perish. What he is doing isn't fair to his players, it isn't fair to the fans and ultimately it isn't even fair to his coaches and himself.

 

Any decent manager in any line of work knows you put your people in a position to succeed by giving them duties within their skill set. Taggart is setting his team up to fail by trying to hammer them into a system they just can't, and very few teams can, play.

 

This is why he will have to go.

 

It's because he doesn't know anything else! Stanford's players made that team, not their OC.

^^^^^^^^ unfortunately I think this is the answer

[Ghost]

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way. 

 

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on. 

[bullsfan27]

Assuming there is no meltdown CWT will be back but what about the assistants. Will the OC or DC be back

[USFbulls24]

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way. 

 

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on. 

 

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM. 

 

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

[Ghost]

 

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way. 

 

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on. 

 

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM. 

 

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

 

 

Well, at some point we are going to have to commit to something. Some style. Some agenda. Some philosophy and stay the course. We cant just have a continuous revolving door of coaches until one of us gets us back to a bowl game. I dont like it but again, just throwing coaches at the problem might not be the solution. 

[JTrue]

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way.

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on.

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM.

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

Well, at some point we are going to have to commit to something. Some style. Some agenda. Some philosophy and stay the course. We cant just have a continuous revolving door of coaches until one of us gets us back to a bowl game. I dont like it but again, just throwing coaches at the problem might not be the solution.

I disagree. The absolute best solution to the problem we currently have is a good coach. If CWT is not a good coach, another is needed immediately.

[USFbulls24]

 

 

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way. 

 

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on. 

 

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM. 

 

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

 

 

Well, at some point we are going to have to commit to something. Some style. Some agenda. Some philosophy and stay the course. We cant just have a continuous revolving door of coaches until one of us gets us back to a bowl game. I dont like it but again, just throwing coaches at the problem might not be the solution. 

 

 

You commit to something that works. You can't just keep a guy around to keep consistency for style and agenda if the results are below average when you're paying the man $1.3 million (or however much it is). I want Taggart to figure it out just as much as the next guy. Another few years of a new coach and new scheme etc. would be miserable to go through because it would once again get worse before it got better. But if Taggart is not the answer and we continue to get this same below average results and below average play, the longer he sticks around the longer it'll take for us to actually get to where we want to be.

[bullsfan1983]

I honestly think based on the declining attendance he could be out this year if we somehow lose the final 3 games. Fans are losing the faith. At any rate if we aren't at least 6-6 next year playing in this conference I can't see him getting more than next year. His "system" has no proven track record of success outside of Stanford and Stanford was only 17-20 in the 3 years he was there learning the system.

[Ghost]

 

 

 

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way.

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on.

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM.

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

Well, at some point we are going to have to commit to something. Some style. Some agenda. Some philosophy and stay the course. We cant just have a continuous revolving door of coaches until one of us gets us back to a bowl game. I dont like it but again, just throwing coaches at the problem might not be the solution.

I disagree. The absolute best solution to the problem we currently have is a good coach. If CWT is not a good coach, another is needed immediately.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assuming he doesnt lose to SMU and doesnt lose the locker room, parents, die hards, etc. then I would honestly give him 2-3 more years. srs. Especially if his recruiting keeps improving. I am willing to be patient. I know you cant turn a program like this around overnight. We are not Auburn. We dont have unlimited funding and reputation to carry us. We need to do it the hard way. 

 

Besides, are we really going to pay FOUR coaches? Come on. 

 

2-3 more years??? He gets another year no matter what in my mind, but if there is no bowl game next year he's gone. No one expects an Auburn like turn around, but at the rate things are going it will take 12 years for us to have a chance to win one of the worst conferences in college football. With teams like SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UCONN, plus whatever FCS school you start with up and down your schedule, if he doesn't have us at a minimum of 6 wins next year it should be glaring that HE IS THE PROBLEM. 

 

As of right now (according to Rivals) our recruiting is ranked 83rd in the country. At least last year we could talk about how incredible he was doing in recruiting, this year we stink again and are wondering what happened to the recruiting that happened last year....?

 

 

Well, at some point we are going to have to commit to something. Some style. Some agenda. Some philosophy and stay the course. We cant just have a continuous revolving door of coaches until one of us gets us back to a bowl game. I dont like it but again, just throwing coaches at the problem might not be the solution. 

 

 

You commit to something that works. You can't just keep a guy around to keep consistency for style and agenda if the results are below average when you're paying the man $1.3 million (or however much it is). I want Taggart to figure it out just as much as the next guy. Another few years of a new coach and new scheme etc. would be miserable to go through because it would once again get worse before it got better. But if Taggart is not the answer and we continue to get this same below average results and below average play, the longer he sticks around the longer it'll take for us to actually get to where we want to be.

 

 

Both of you are right, but I only said 2-3 more years. Not 12 like Rutgers gave Schiano. I dont think 4-5 years is unfair. Again, it all depends too. If we go 4-8 this year w/ an 80th ranked class, then have an SMU year next year, then there is no excuse for that. If we go 5-7 next year but bring in a top 30 recruiting class, do we still let him go? What if we go 4-8 the year after, but bring in a top 20 class? Do we let him go? 

 

I truly do not believe three years is enough to turn most programs around. Especially when you're basically starting from scratch. Staff, scheme, everything.