El_Toro_86

This Bull defense is one of the worst I've seen

I mean run forward.

Does BJ know he can forward? It's not against the rules.

This OL is horrendous.

Gonna be a very long season.

This team is bad. They look poorly coached and dysfunctional.

BJ is horrible.

We will wear them down with our tough defense and our running game. USF wins 13-12.

lolol

That's funny right there!

Derrick Brooks is President of the Tampa Bay Storm, is educated, does charitable work including fundraising. I think he would be an excellent candidate for the job, just have a good Associate AD working with him and you are money.

I believe he's also on the Board of Trustees at FSU. Could be mistaken though.

I got it... we are in the Randy Shannon years...

He took Miami from a powerhouse and turned them into the joke that they are today... now we were never a powerhouse, but we at least had a decent bowl game run and could muster a 7-8 win season each year, and go .500 in the Big East.

Miami wasn't a powerhouse when he took over. Coker started turning them into what they are today.

Maybe we're in the Coker era. Both look lost on the sidelines.

Kragholtz has neutered the program in a little over 2 years.

I was initially on board with the hire. However, what infuriates me is that our AD gave this clown a contract extension after a 5-7 season. Unlike other programs, we don't have the resources to cut him loose after this season and bring in a proven coach. So unfortunately, we're going to be stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

For the sake of the program, I hope he can right the ship, however I don't see that happening.

Gotta try something. So far, the run game has been awful. This offense doesn't stand a chance to be productive without a consistent run game.

At this point, I think most of us would be happy to win a big east game.

Let's start with a BE home game.

Only 1 so far in the Holtz new era.

The thought of listening to their band play the war chant while we get waxed in our stadium makes me queasy!

Holtz just said in his press conference that BJ played a great game. Does he watch the same game we do?

He is in way over his head.

We are being Kragholtzed to death!

I waited to hear Skip's press conference before I made my prediction. After hearing him say "BJ played a great game", I heard all I needed to hear.

Balls Tate

31-24

Daniels

Davis

389

How can you sneak a cup back into the game? You have to pat down your pockets at RayJay and can barely get your cell phone in your pocket without them thinking that you are sneaking in.

I walk in with two water bottles in my back pockets every game. Just wear a hat and the TSA folk are so worried about the bomb in your hat that they don't check your back pockets. (I really don't get why they check everyone's hats so intently)

How hilarious. I do the same thing except with beer.

Because he has the athletic talent.... and the staff hoped that he'd get his head on straight.... he hasn't. Just like Daniels he has all the athletic talent in the world... but he just doesn't get the mental side of the game.

what is mental about telling a 6'6" TE to catch a jump ball over a 5'10"corner?

Maybe he has trouble with the route.

Exactly... it's the route running that's the issue. Also, he's not very good at making adjustments when catching the ball.

from inside the 5 yard line when they took him out to put dunkley in? you could draw his route with a stick in the dirt. any 10 year old could understand that.what adjustment do you need to make to out jump a 5'10" corner?they can't simplify his package and just use him inside the 10?give him 3 routes. the guy is a matchup nightmare.

what about shields? he used to be deadly the few times we threw to him down the seam over linebackers. we don't use TEs at all. again I don't consider Landi a TE. he is a WR. what happened to the H-back? might be nice to have an extra blocker back there since our o-line doesn't get the job done. remember the kid Holtz brought with him from ecu?? we don't even field the position anymore.

At fan fest, I specifically asked the TEs if they're going to get thrown to more this year and they all said yes. They said they were getting a lot of balls in practice.

Who know what's going on inside this team.

I think this is a 50-50 game right now.

That sounds about right. If we lose, this board will be worse than Chernobyl.

This game will be a lot closer than most people think. It's probably a toss up.

With all credit to a poster on another board, the preferred term is Skipthorpe.

Holtzthorpe?

I like Skippy Kragholtz myself.

Coined originally by El_Toro in November of last year and I jumped on that name after he had first used it. It's definitely catchy and if Skip Holtz doesn't get his and his staff's act together, it will be his nom de guerre for many years to come.

Thanks hbryan. I hope I'm wrong on this one, but I see a lot of similarities between Holtz and Kragthorpe. Nice guys, both came form CUSA, where each had some success, both played boring conservative football and both had a lot of home losses and a disillusioned fan base. Neither were ready to win at the BCS level.

We don't have the resources of the Ville, so if a change needs to be made I hope they don't wait too long or we may end up in a black hole that we can't recover from.

With all credit to a poster on another board, the preferred term is Skipthorpe.

Holtzthorpe?

I like Skippy Kragholtz myself.

Anyone can have intensity after big plays. Todd Chandler hits himself in the helmet after every play he makes.

I am talking about the intensity and fire going into the game. and throughout the game.

The one guy that I found most fiery all the time, the one that hated to lose more than anyone I can remember from USF was Terence Royal. One thing I will never forget was the UCONN game in 2006 (The Voodoo 5 game). I was with one of the player's parents and we were waiting to talk to the players before they got on the bus. It took Terence Royal 20 minutes after the game to leave the field. A coach had to come out of the locker room to get him and then about five minutes after that he comes running back out on the field. He left it all out on the field every game. He could not accept losing that game and he didn't want to leave. That's the kind of fire that Leavitt infused into his players. Sometimes it led to stupid personal foul calls, ultimately it was his undoing here and after a while it became old, but that's the kind of mentality that let us overachive as we moved up from a start-up program and each step along the way.

We need to see that kind of desire burning deep within each player every game.

Well said!

I see this game unfolding like UTC. We will get out to a lead and make some stupid mistakes and Ball St will hang around and this game will be in doubt in to the 4th quarter. Bulls will win in the end not because of better coaching but because we have better athletes.

Unfortunately this game will not allow us to get any meaningful reps for the backups.

Past behavior is predictive of future performance.

Which is it, will the game be like the Chattanooga game, or will the game be in doubt in the fourth quarter? The Chattanooga game was never in doubt, and certainly not at any point in the second half. Just because the team didn't win by 70 doesn't mean the outcome was ever in question.

In reality, the UTC game was probably not in doubt. However, my point wast that because of the stupid interception before the half (like many others in the BJD era) and not being able to run the ball that well we were not able to build a comfortable enough lead to put in the backups until there was a few minutes left in the game.

That's how I see this playing out.

35-24 USF

I see this game unfolding like UTC. We will get out to a lead and make some stupid mistakes and Ball St will hang around and this game will be in doubt in to the 4th quarter. Bulls will win in the end not because of better coaching but because we have better athletes.

Unfortunately this game will not allow us to get any meaningful reps for the backups.

Past behavior is predictive of future performance.