in college football not even on most folks radar screens yet. I get a lot of "who-s-f?" and "where?" and "you have football?" when I am on the road. if not how long will it take to get there? 10 years, less if ideal conditions exist and what will it take to get there? money, recruiting, big wins, alumni involvement (see money), smazza getting cheap flights from LAX what benchmarks do we have to hit and why? beat an SEC team, beat other national level programs, bowls, titles, more time on espn i believe we are there now, and how long we will stay there may be a more important question.