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The volume was way too low to hear, so I stopped watching it after a few minutes.

Personally, I find press conferences boring, and I would rather just read a transcript.  That is a lot faster and does not take as much of my free time.

If Coach Scott is meeting other goals of Kelly outside of wins, then I can see a justification for his extension.  I can also see it as a way to keep Scott in the fold.  While most D1 programs would probably pass on hiring him as a head coach, he could leave to take an assistant job, especially if it paid more money, if he felt disrespected by USF.

I have worked professionally long enough where I have seen projects go belly up no matter how hard the leader tries to make the project successful.  Sometimes the leader is saddled with team members who are not up to the level needed to make the project succeed, but for multiple reasons the leader cannot clean house.  The leader is stuck with the cards dealt to him, and if the organization is smart and not vindictive, they will see through that and take that into consideration when evaluating the performance of the leader.

I am personally going through a similar situation in my professional life.  My project from the past year did not complete all its goals.  A lot of it is from stupid decisions made above me and several team members that are barely qualified to wear an apron and flip burgers for a living.  However, I am stuck with those clowns and I cannot fire them without a lengthy and time-consuming process.  If the company takes that into consideration in my annual review, then I would be fine with that.  However, if they punish me with reduced compensation because of factors out of my control, I guarantee that my resume will be on the block.  If I would leave this year's project will definitely fail.

I see the same situation at USF.  If USF said "everyone gets an extension but Scott" then I could see him planning his exit strategy, and his Clemson connections could lead to a better paying job even if it is not a head coaching job.  That would start the downward spiral for USF football.

I am not saying that he gets a pass forever, but there are situations out of his control, and he did inherit a team lacking in talent and discipline.

3 hours ago, smazza said:

i am not surprised because scott has great potential

signing every other coach to extensions is odd

I think USF must have gotten some money lined up, so they decided to take care of their people.

Almost all of the other coaches outside of football and men's BB have been successful.  All of them deserve extensions because of the performance of their teams.

Well Gregory led USF to a CBI championship in 2019  

College Basketball Invitational - Wikipedia

Some of our coaches have been producing results, just not the ones in the major two sports - football and men's basketball.  I have not followed the non-revenue sports, so this article was a nice reminder that not all of our sports are a disaster.

3 hours ago, smazza said:

so true

comparing leavitt to pitino to like comparing a ford pinto to a ferrari

Pinto vs Ferrari.  Good one.  

I do not think anyone's starting job is locked in for next season.  Well maybe except for the punter since he was so busy last season  

Why did they make him a "vice president" of athletics instead of a director of athletics like most schools?

I do not think he has done anything do deserve the vice president title over director title.

If CJS turns things around next season, then maybe I would keep him around if he gets construction of an OCS off the ground.

On 12/21/2021 at 7:35 PM, USFBULL_08 said:

She missed her opportunity to donate that money to the OCS and have the stadium\field named after her. Would have been the ultimate troll job.

Her husband Steve Greenbaum donated money for a Rocky D Bull scholarship that also includes money for a dedicated Rocky Room.  While not an OCS, Rocky finally gets the respect he deserves.

I did not know that young man who portrayed Rocky died so young.  Very sad.

Llinas Honored As "Rocky Room" Established in Selmon Athletics Center - USF Athletics

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Led by donor Steve Greenbaum, Rocky Program elevated in memory of Milton Llinas.

Verys suspicious that Virgina had to pull out of bowl games two years in a row because of covid-19.  

7 hours ago, Triple B said:

Plus, I don't assess USF based on what other programs are doing or have done. We've got to do what we have to do to get things on the right track and stop whining about what somebody else has done .....

Yeah.  USF needs to get their sh!t together and start winning.  USF needs to make better hiring decisions on head coaches.  Was Strong a bad hire?  Yes.  Is Scott a bad hire?  The jury is still out on that one.

USF football will turn it around because there is no other major sport that can carry this school.  The best and consistent team is WBB, but they have not shown the ability go to deep in the NCAAs.  The WNIT? Yes, but that is not as impressive per popular opinion.

I do like this statement.

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Well before Scott left his job at Clemson to take over USF, the program had been built into a successful powerhouse by Willie Taggert, who left the Bulls to coach at Oregon. He was replaced by Charlie Strong, who took a 10-2 team in three years and was fired after running the program into the ground with a 4-8 season. Scott has been attempting to pick up the pieces ever since.

Strong was such a disaster that it feels like we have been putrid forever.  Maybe USF should have tried to match whatever Oregon offered Taggert.  Then we might have been offered a seat in the Big 12 instead of being shut out.  It would have been worth the money.

1 hour ago, puc86 said:

That’s not how you spell farce 

Dang you beat me to the punch.  

I was going to ask Force or Farce?

11 hours ago, BDYZR said:

What the hell does Ybor have to do with it? Although those bricks have been there for maybe 100 years. 
You Buy a brick, be proud of it, and die. Nobody will care in a few years anyway.

It is just an example that people who live in Tampa may have seen.  Disney sold bricks too, and years later, bricks are gone.'

If they want money, I would just make a donation.   Cut out the expense and empty promise of a brick.

The problem with bricks is that at some point some new person in charge will decide to rip them up and your brick is gone.  The other downside is like the bricks in Ybor City.  Some drunk fool has probably vomited on the bricks down there, and there is not a lot of clean up down there.  How much would it cost for a regular presser washing of the sidewalks in Ybor?

This thread is still hanging around?

An OCS would give me an excuse to spend time in the USF area of Tampa.  I really don't know what are the good food places near USF besides Portillos

Sterling Archer is

I am happy with this hire.  As a 50-something dude, I can vouch that experience is a good thing.  

1 hour ago, sloan1919 said:

The entire world (e.g., business, sports, life) works that way:

1) Invest

2) Wait

3) Benefit

Suggesting 3 comes before 1 is crazy.

 

 

 

 

On 12/3/2021 at 1:54 PM, Paisa el Toro said:

USF Athletics? It's a struggle. I don't ask for UF levels of donations, but UCF wiped us in this category. MK has slowly been improving athletics donations, but we have a ways to go. At least our endowment is pretty sweet.

9 hours ago, USFreak said:

My reply to this topic.  I live in Colorado and have 2-3 kids in the "college age".  One didn't care at all about football and went to more of a tech school.

The second, we visited quite a few schools and, to be blunt, it matters.  We went to a small(ish) school in Montana (Montana State) and the Saturday gameday atmosphere - electric.  We went to Colorado State.  A small school in a small conference. Electric.  Like I LOVED IT. I've been with my son to a game at Western Colorado this year.  Maybe 4500 fans.  Electric.  My daughter went and visited UF and UCF a month ago - electric.  The common thread.  An on-campus stadium.  

I told my old boy Dave Glaser (who probably will still let me buy a few overprice boat drinks and watch his cover band) that I bypassed USF for her for that very reason. I literally told my daughter "look somewhere else."  He was disgusted.  I feel it, but USF ain't "next level" until they make that change.  The results and failure is right there - who is in the Big 12?  UCF  Who can make the next jump.  Not us. They should have been on it 15 years ago and not fired Leavitt.  Tell me I'm wrong.  We are an AAC team I watched 8 minutes of on Nov 26th....a dude that was die-hard...die-hard 15 years ago.  I could care less.  

Build a stadium tomorrow and get to the business of making it a true campus experience.

If you think Leavitt would still be head coach of USF with his piss poor conference record then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

The downfall of USF football can be tied to the untimely death of Lee Roy Selmon.  He was the real driver behind USF's success in football and athletics overall.  If he was still alive we would already have an OCS.  He could get on the phone, call a few key donors, and we would have the funds to build an OCS.

19 hours ago, jchem1995 said:

I got a Facebook message from USF showing a bucket claw getting ready to dig today.

I saw that too as well as on Instagram.

OK twenty and thirty something USF fans, it is up to you to start creating more USF fans.  

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At least we got our coach from Clemson's assistant coach pool.  UF reached down into the Sun Belt for its new coach.  Maybe Napier is a good coach, but UL did not exactly face stiff competition this season.  Their only game against a P5 school was Texas, and they lost that.  

Of course CJS only has one FBS win in two years, so he has a lot to prove before anyone can say hiring him was a good idea.

20 hours ago, El_Toro_86 said:

Now that the seasons over expect heavy portal activity.  Goings and comings.  

So far Cade Fortin and Ryan Thaxton are gone.

No disrespect to Fortin, but he did not show us much this year on the field.   Maybe he was super awesome in practice, but he was practicing against our defense, and our defense made Tulane look like Alabama.