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16 minutes ago, smazza said:

why dont we play them every year?

Great law school if I say so myself!

28 minutes ago, Gismo said:

The remaining ACC schools don’t add much value to the big 12. Not enough to justify expansion. 
 

That’s why the new contract pays the Big12 and ACC the same. When FSU and Clemson and maybe UNC and Virginia are gone, the ACC will be paid less. None of the remaining members will be strong big12 additions. 


I think the ACC left overs have no option but to stick together and consider adding Uconn and USF. 

Killing the ACC would be enough incentive just by itself. Remember a year ago they felt that a Cincy, Houston, and UCF brought value to the league.  A Louisville, Georgia Tech, Pitt, NC State could make sense to them.

12 minutes ago, SilverBull said:

I think it promises the same Powerful Placebo Effect that wearing my lucky underwear to games has helped us win so many championships over the years!

The  silver hair, hence the name SilverBull ??

3 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

I just don't see it. even if they lose top few teams, The ACC is academically heads and shoulders above the big 12 or reconstituted pac 2. I think this still actually matters to some schools.

I don't know. If a Duke, Stanford, Cal. Pitt, and Georgia Tech get the choice between being in a conference with us, Tulane, Syracuse, Wake Forrest, and Boston College or the Big 12, they will fall over themselves to get in the Big 12.

Again assuming the ACC loses more than 4 teams. If its just 4 the ACC will be fine. If its more the Big 12 will be in a good position.

1 minute ago, John Lewis said:

Isn't the ACC receiving more of a percentage payout in the new CFP agreement?

Not sure why the remaining ACC schools (assuming FSU, Clemson, and UNC are off to the P2) would think moving to the Big XII would be a good idea. The travel alone in the Big XII would be much worse than what they have even after adding Cal and Stanford.

Because it would offer them stability and more prestige. That's assuming  the ACC loses more than 4. If they lose more than 4 the Big 12 would be a better conference by a long shot.  Louisville and Pitt would fit in well geographically with the Big 12.

12 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said:

Personally, we want 2-4 teams to leave the ACC and go to the P2, that is what will open a spot for us. 

What we don't want is the B12 to be able to pull ACC schools, that will lead to the ACC losing a lot. We still go there, our league home is still upgraded, but the upgrade is not as big as we hope for. 

I don't know what the magic number would be for us to be guaranteed a spot in the ACC, but them expanding Westward might have changed that  number. I am sure while we are under consideration teams like San Diego State, OSU, WSU, Tulane, Boise State, ECU and Memphis are as well. I know for some Boise State is a controversial one, but they are probably the best football school available, and they have slowly turned into a very good basketball program as well.

I think the more teams the ACC loses the better for us.

18 minutes ago, Triple B said:

He definitely should ..... but it didn't need to happen before the season was over or for some of the crazy numbers being bantered about.

i don't know what the number is, or should be, but if we think that he can be a consistent winner for us the number should be significant. We have seen over the last decade how much it costs to be forced to fire coaches who cant produce. So if we think we have a winner we should do everything to keep him. The same goes for Golesh

Ultimately its all about winning. the winning is even more important than great facilities.

12 minutes ago, Brad said:

Not true.  The fact that in recent history we've lost most games we're supposed to win has led to a lot of confusion as to what expectations should be for our program.  

The great thing about this season and these young coaches coming in and winning right away is that it defeats the false premise that its hard to win at USF, and that a turn around is a multi year preposition.

From this day forward we should only expect playoffs, NCAAT, bowl games, conference championships and winning seasons.

27 minutes ago, OhioBull said:

Best combined football and basketball season I can ever remember.  I still have 3 kids living at home and typically they were uninterested when I would tune in a game.  That changed this year in both sports with all my kids excited to see USF on the TV.  Two of my three even went with me to Florida to watch the bowl game against Syracuse.  It was great.  Sure, we didn't make the NCAA and that stinks.  That aside, this was a great year and I always looked forward to the next game knowing the team would represent.  A lot of fun.  

What makes all this exciting is that (knocking on wood) a lot of players should be returning for next season in both football and basketball, so hopefully we will see some sustained success. Great year, and hopefully we can build on it.

50 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

34 nonP6 teams made the NCAA Championship tourney.  I'd say that's valuing "mid" majors.

NIT instituted some new stupid rules related to P6 teams that resulted in a team like ucf getting in and getting a home game.   Still, we're in the NIT and if we are half as deserving as many on here are claiming then we should have not problem going there and winning the game in their arena

Let me know the next time the CFP has half of it's field nonP5/P4 teams

Yes, while disappointing its not a home game at the same time we are playing a team that finished in the bottom half of their conference. By all means this should be seen as a favorable matchup for us.

Lets just go out and win this one, and perhaps send a message to the Big 12 that we might add value to the league next time when they add teams.

I think at the very least we deserved to host this game. The way the NIT is set up is non sensical to me.

When do we find out?

10 minutes ago, jchem1995 said:

How thehell does FAU get in over USF? Didnt win the confrence , lost in the tournament and had w worse record that us???????

Probably comes down to their huge win against Arizona and big win against TAMU. Also It doesn't hurt that they came in the season ranked after a Final Four  appearance, and in the early part of the season showed that they are a top team.

Personally have no problem with FAU making it. Just wish we would get more respect for our win against them, and coming in first in a decent AAC. At the same time we lost two of our last three games and did not impress early in the season.

Lets learn from it and do better next year.

3 minutes ago, USFDude said:

It pains me to not see USF on this board, but still cant believe my second school Stetson is on there.

I hope UAB and FAU do well so our conference gets more respect.

Next year will be our year.

No doubt that when we look back this will be viewed as a successful season.

12 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

I'm not clear how all this works but it seems that instead of losing to CMU, Mass and whomever, had we lost by 40 to Duke, Kentucky and UNC we'd be in the tournament?

Probably winning 75 percent of our OOC games plus a win against a top 25 Power 5 team would have sealed it for us.

Personally I don't feel aggrieved. Do we deserve a spot. Yes!  But other teams can probably make that case as well.  However, I understand that we did not get in due to our poor start, weak OOC, and the fact that we lost two of our last three games, including the last one with double digits. It is what it is. Next year we can hopefully do better.

Lets just focus on the NIT

57 minutes ago, beastiebull said:

Almost everything in the world has changed since I used to post here regularly. 

Dare I say, its almost comforting, but also equally painful, to know that USF athletics has not.  

I would say that with 24 wins and a probable NIT birth, plus a bowl win in football plenty has changed compared to the last few years. Furthermore, the foundation has been set for even more success next year.

Disappointing, but excited about our prospects next year. Hopefully most players come back, and we are able to add a few pieces to get even better.

Our NCAAT birth was lost early season during our OOC schedule. Hopefully next year we can have a better start with a stronger OOC schedule. Winning these end of season tournaments are never easy, that is why they call it March Madness. Hopefully we can have a tournament lock next year before the AAC tournament

but yes this one stings.

Very early.

5 minutes ago, jmbull said:

I don’t see this Howard game ending in the next 8 minutes. Last two minutes in bb takes like half an hour. 

 It is still starting on time right? I will be watching it on ESPN plus.

2 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

Sorry, there are conferences that absolutely do not deserve 2 teams in the tourney and inevitable this would lead to that.  Unfortunately our current conference might be one of those conferences (this year at least)

Yea, I 100 percent agree. The only way they could do it in this way is if they added more teams to the NCAAT set up by adding an extra round.  But I would not be in favor of that since that would make earning a bid less special.

9 minutes ago, hm101 said:

i would prefer that we learn how to actually win the things we need to win

if we don't win the AAC tourney I kinda dont want an NCAA bid and frankly don't care about the NIT

no more gimmicks as a program, no more getting in on potential or flashes

we HAVE to learn to WIN the games to EARN our place

i think you get  in any way you can. Personally I feel that if we win today we would have earned it regardless as to whether we get in or not.

Regarding the NIT it would be a nice consolation price. However, it would be a bit disappointing imo since we are so close.

Regardless an amazing season no matter what happens for the rest of the season.

21 minutes ago, jmbull said:

Still looks empty for fau. I thought they filled every arena they play in?

One reason to the change format. No reason to have these games in a big arena in Forth Worth.

The AAC should consider homecourt advantage for higher seeds. First of all it would provide a meaningful advantage for winning the regular season, and would provide the opportunity for more fans to attend.

13 minutes ago, Triple B said:

I think the ones who designate "bubble" teams rely on NET rankings kind of heavy so with their mid 30's ranking, I don't think they would fall there .... and both wins they had against UNT were under 5 points so them losing is not out of the question.

The potential benefit regarding FAU looking like a lock for the NCAA tournament is that they might come out without much to play for. Although that might go both ways since they could come out relaxed and play better.