UCF_rustbucket
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I'm just as dubious of Twitter randos. I don't quite believe his claim of "build it and we'll invite you" but I lean more towards your same thinking of "we didn't pick you because" and as a result, USF built their game plan on how to address these things. Some in motion after 2016 and others accelerated in 2021 only after the surprise Big 12 dominos. Still of the belief that there's no super secret agreement in hand, just that USF knows now what it needs to do to be the top option for whenever the next P5 expansion happens.
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Even if you disregard any recent developments, just look at the advantages that have been there for a while like the location, size, and athletics budget and any competent coach should have this program back to bowl eligibility at worst in a short time. I have no clue what CJS was doing all this time lol because we're not even questioning his ability to win a conference title, man couldn't even get more than 2 wins a season with so much talent a stones throw away from campus.
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For sure. He's one of a few ones you can trust but probably the most credible and generally very cautious about sharing news withing actual confirmation and real sources.
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Lmao that's fair. Throw something new into the rotation.
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Bull Matrix's short term goal is to get this thread to 3000 pages while having a good time. Let the man cook!
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No one thinks this lol the PAC 12 has no agreement. Saying you verbally agreed to the framework of a GOR doesn't mean anything without a tv deal to actually sign it with.
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Good point. I agree with the core message, if ESPN does something it'll be purely for their own benefit and not out of the goodness of their hearts lol they'll cut a deal if the long term math has them winning by dumping some bottom feeders.
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And breaking a deal with ESPN would haunt the ACC. There's really only 2 major players for being primary partners in football media rights. If ACC sours their relationship with ESPN, that would give Fox all the leverage next time to get their own money saving deal with the ACC since ESPN will sit it out. Unless the ACC wants to be on apple or Amazon. I just can't see what ESPN would gain from beefing up the money or shortening the current length.
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So paying the ACC more would be a better deal if they're going broke? Lol that's exactly why they're going to hold the ACC to the contract they signed. Paying the ACC below market value IS the better deal for ESPN .
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All the ACC are pretty much in agreement they'd want to renegotiate the deal. But the TV partner has to agree. ESPN has no reason to renegotiate when it's got the ACC locked in at great value for 13 more years. That was the tradeoff they agreed to for investing in the ACC network, ESPN wanted this longer deal to get their return on investment.
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The word was that after the whole "magnificent 7" thing came out is that they couldn't find any way to break it though. Which to Cubanbulls point takes away their leverage to make big demands. The ACC will give them some merit based revenue split because even whining without leverage is a bad look for the conference, but not enough to make a difference for the TV deal.
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You rang, bb?
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Offense was solid with an occasional flash of punching above that. You could definitely have reached bowl eligibility with that offensive output if the defense weren't wet paper towel strong lol If Golesh can elevate the defense even to just average or below average instead of terrible, you're cooking with oil and win 6.
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I think admin would listen to what he has to say about a potential move but still make their own final decision on it. Sort of use him as a representative not just for himself but for their future football coaches as well.
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It's a good question. Ultimately depends on what the university values most. Dumping teams that are full members is unheard of. But squeezing them out like this where they see a different option as a better fit might be the way.
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Aka, the secret sauce that made trash bags like Maryland and Rutgers attractive for the B1G. It was never about their actual fans/viewers, but being able to slap carriage fees for the B1G network in those 2 massive markets.
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There's 2 reasons I don't go out of my way to rag on y'all here. The first is I just wanna talk general football and doing that will just get me kicked from the forum lol. The second reason is that you have your own fans here ragging on the program more than I could so they've got it covered. -
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It's my hot button. Daddy Bull Matrix knows this well. -
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Eh lol the buyout is a drop in the bucket for what this costs. Each of the 3 is paying $18M and the AAC will probably take a cut. But let's assume they don't and that's only divided among the 8 legacy AAC teams. 18x3/8 is 6.75. money is money but nothing significant. Especially with how slowly it'll be paid out. -
Quite the opposite. The only thing holding the ACC together like duct tape is the GOR. Otherwise the top programs would looking for the exit because there's no conceivable way to catch up to the SEC and B1G without adding like 2 or 3 ND caliber programs. The Big 12 is ironically in a more stable position because they *don't* have FSU/Clemson level programs worth taking anymore. There's good depth but at 16+ teams, the SEC and B1G won't make more money by adding to the middle of the conference. It's OU/UT types or bust.
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Right, so don't trust that ESPN will be nice and give more money just because lol
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Lmao they're not alone. Colorado and Utah fans think they're B1G material and there were Texas Tech and Oklahoma State boards that were convinced they were SEC locks back when this round of raids started.
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I think you're misunderstanding what the GOR is for. It's not the roadblock for negotiating a pay bump. The GOR is an agreement between the ACC and it's members, not ESPN, that each member gives up ownership of their TV rights to the conference for a period of time that matches the current tv deal. This is meant to disincentivize teams from leaving because the old school method of just raising conference exit fees wasn't really stopping anyone. If the GOR code is somehow cracked by the magnificent 7 lawyers, it doesn't change anything between the ACC and ESPN. All it does is make it significantly cheaper for the Clemson's and FSUs to leave if the SEC offers.
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Lmao ND would run out of there so fast. The Big East, Big 12, and B1G would be tripping over themselves to offer ND.
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Some are talking about it, but it's not really a solution that makes sense. ESPN has no reason to just pay the ACC more than they already are. The ACC insisted on a conference network so this pay structure from ESPN makes financial sense for them to get their money back on that investment. Dissolving the GOR just means the ACC can no longer hold the TV rights of individual members hostage as a method to keep them from leaving. Doesn't directly change their deal with ESPN.
