OcalaBull2

It needs to happen 

14 minutes ago, mj796 said:

I don't really understand the point? I wasn't talking about how we play, I was specifically talking about the uniforms. Perhaps Puc can weigh in, but I highly doubt there is a correlation between uniform designs and on-field performance. There is, however, a correlation between fashion 'branding' perceived by recruits and recruit team selection. 

It’s also bringing fans something else to talk about. There’s very little bad that can come out of this other than the traditional “it doesn’t need to be a fashion show, let’s just play” fans. I get it, some people perform the plain look but this and playing have no comparison. The players clearly love them, the recruits will undoubtedly as well, and a large portion of a fan base does too. 

Should be a dark green or slime helmet by my God these are beautiful 

2 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Relative to keeping his job, our baseball coach just caught the biggest break in the history of college sports. 

Came here to post this but at the same time, he shouldn’t be rewarded for his last game being a loss/regular season sweep to famu lol. 

On 3/7/2020 at 11:38 PM, bullsfan27 said:

Not sure but beating them in the tourney would be bittersweet 

you mean sweet?

13 hours ago, JupiterBull said:

I'll watch if he gets any real PT...otherwise, likely not.  Glad he is back on the active roster.

Same. From here out I’m a dragons fan with BJ at starting QB

53 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

You're probably not far off.  I was going to drive up Sunday, but might just save the gas.  We just don't have the horses right now.   I think there were 3 Freshman and 3 Sophs in the starting lineup and if these guys were big time hitters right now they probably wouldn't be here.  Lane has looked decent, Cantu had a double, and Besnier hit his first dinger.   Good news is the Gators are far and away better than any team in our conference.  Bad news is Northeastern and Marist aren't.   Interested in seeing how Jasiak does tomorrow night

On another note.  Tommy Mace is a bad ass.  Wish I could have watched the game tonight to see him pitch.  Watched him in high school some and he probably could have pitched for us if not the Gators as a Junior at Sunlake.

Just keep repeating:  the future is bright, the future is bright

Yeah, I’m just trying to be positive from here out. I really don’t think this season is going to end well, but I’ll enjoy whatever bright spots we see along the way. I think tonight was more about how good Florida looks rather than how bad we do. Florida has a legitimate possibility of winning it all. 

Left the game after the 4th because I had to meet with my family, but we’ll be lucky to score more than 1 run this entire weekend. We don’t look good at all, and UF’s bats are hard to compete against. It truly had the feel of a community college vs a d1 school. 

It shouldn’t be this easy to get tickets to our games lol 

20 minutes ago, usfjames2002 said:

I will put them to good use.

They’re yours. Message me your email for Ticketmaster so I can transfer them 

To Saturday’s game if anyone wants them. No charge. 

1 minute ago, chapelbull said:

I didn't say I'm good with it, but it was 1 year not 2 and we'll see how this year plays out.  **** happens and the other teams are trying to win too.  

But everything I’ve been saying is mainly with this and last year combined. I’m not talking about year one. I’ve been speaking in hypotheticals with how poorly this season has started. We made a regional his first year with a lot of Kingston’s talent. I mentioned in one of my posts that almost all of what I’ve said could play out to be irrelevant by season’s end. Multiple years of not making the tournament meaning last year and this year if that’s what happens. 

4 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

He's been here 2 years.  Made the NCAA Regional Year 1 and sucked last year.  IT's already been pointed out that last year we had to replace our Top 3 Pitchers due to MLB draft as well as a couple of top hitters.   We also lost several arms to injury.  I don't recall any glaring "game management" issues.

This year we have started as many as 5 or 6 Freshman/Soph in the batting order and our Saturday starter is a Freshman ( he may prove to be the Friday guy, but CBM may choose to leave the Senior there).  Another freshman has looked overall good while a little inconsistent and 2 juniors returning from injury have looked good overall on the bump.

The team is young, Mohl is young.  Sometimes you just have to let it play out and see what happens

At the expense of not making an 8 out of 9 team conference tournament in our own back yard? Nah I’m not good with that. Did those other teams not have to deal with adversity as well?

1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said:

My overall point is that the sport is so diluted from there being so many options (see my response to Jtrue) that the idea that we should be good because we are a division one program in the state of Florida is just misguided. Here, just as everywhere else, programs have to be built by good people. For whatever reason and im sure if you dig deep enough you will find many, we just haven't. Those other programs that have been referenced in this thread have. firing coaches after three seasons because they don't make to the tourny 2 out of the 3 isn't gonna do it either. If he makes the conference tourny and the freshman are playing well he deserves a chance to build on that. He's only had two full recruiting cycles as the head guy and as we established, we don't get a crack at very many impact freshman and think he found two in this class.  

I don’t think firing a coach after not making a regional two out of three years is a good reason. But not making your conference tourney two of those years is. For the reasons I mentioned before we should not be a bottom feeder in the aac. If you can’t string up enough talent in the state of Florida alone you’ve got problems ahead of you. Those other schools have found success because they’ve recruited well and they’ve used the talent they have well. If I recall correctly game management was also an issue last season, which has nothing to do with Florida talent and everything to do with coaching capability. Not winning with talent availability is only one aspect of why things haven’t worked out so far. If we show progress then most of what I’m saying is irrelevant. My biggest fear is that we haven’t shown much progress yet but instead regression. 

28 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

 

My overall point is that we aren't trending in the right direction with baseball and that's largely due to poor recruiting and coaching.  Northeastern may not be better than us overall in history, but they came to Florida and handed it to us.  We've done nothing to impress this season yet at all.   

4 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said:

I get that there is a ton of talent in the state but there is also a ton of options just in the state alone. I mean I don't have a number but I can believe there are no less than 300+ schools and 30 MLB teams recruiting the state.

Also important to remember 

1st level talent goes pro

2nd level talent goes JUCO to go pro early

3rd level talent goes P5 

4th level g5 

Now there is some mixing like 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 but we aren't getting close to top level talent, even in the state. 

We knew the offense would be bad and it is. Pitching for the most part has been good. If the bats can get hot for a little bit, you will see what potential this team has but I think it just needs to get handed off to the youth and take the bumps. 

We aren't getting those players, you're right, but that still doesn't matter.  We've been competitive in the past with the same access to players yet for some reason that's now different. So, Stanford and JU aren't considered g5 or p5, are also a step above Juco, yet they're able to do pretty well and somehow have managed to look better than us over recent years.  How is UCF able to sweep Auburn yet we can't manage to win one game against an unranked team from up north?  There should be no "we knew the offense would be bad." That comes down to poor recruiting. 

19 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

Also can we stop treating baseball like its football. A school is not small or suck just because you have never heard of them. This is a sport where schools such as Dallas Baptist University and Cal State Fullerton are a very good programs and have been better than us for years, Stetson is a good program on a national level. It's not then end of the world that we lost to Northeastern, they aren't a terrible program and got an at large bid to the tournament in 2018. Now we did look pretty bad offensively, but they played well too. 

I'm in the play it out camp. We don't gain anything by firing Mohl, all quality candidates are currently employed. But I will stand in the camp that says the final record, long as we make the conference tourney, doesn't matter as much as how the freshman are playing at the end. If the freshman and Sophomores are starting to put it together towards the end, CBM deserves a chance to build on that. 

Baseball is a completely different animal and you hit the nail on the head when you say a school is not small or suck because others haven't heard of them.

I think that statement alone, though, speaks to the fact that the performance we've seen by USF so far is bad.  Football is a breeding ground in Florida, but I personally feel it's even more amplified with baseball.  This is the one sport I can speak for when I say that there's tons and tons of untapped talent in the state, and being a D1 school in Tampa there's really no reason we shouldn't be consistently decent at the very worst.  Last year we had injuries so if any excuse is made that's somewhat legitimate.  But this year?  I  don't care if we're young, we should still be able to take at least one game from a school who experiences a true winter. 

Firing Mohl mid season won't do much good, but I think it's pretty obvious that the staff will be looked at by the end of the year if we continue to see this trend. 

Final: 5-1 Famu. 
 

Our offense has been less than ideal to start the season. 

2 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

Yeah, better.  You didn't like the hire because you wanted them to go out and do a deeper search, lazy hire is fair.  I'd guess that Kingston lobbied for him big time and so Harlan gave him his shot.

And looking at his resume his shot probably should have been somewhere other than a D1 university. At the very least in a conference smaller than AAC. Not that the AAC is dominant by any means, but he still wasn’t a great fit for the program. 

3 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

You said NEVER like him .... none of those reasons explain that.  In his first year, he went to the Regionals and pitching was pretty strong.  You couldn't have possibly known whether he would build off that or not but ok

Lol, ok, let me rephrase it then. I have no problem with him personally but I didn’t like the hire from the get go. It was a lazy hire and now we’re paying for it. Better?

10 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

Mohl was here and part of the rebuild of the program.  Strong was not.  Bad comparison.

You still didn't answer my question about why you never liked Mohl?

I don’t like Mohl because his recruiting classes have been mediocre at BEST, he hasn’t shown that he can build an offense and defense combined, he’s being outplayed and recruited by multiple Florida programs, and he’s not given fans any kind of hope for the future. 
 

OH, and he lived off the success of the past head coach, regardless of being part of the staff. I’m well aware he was a pitching coach. Which is funny because he should be doing even better now but ok. 

Just now, chapelbull said:

Why's that?   And this is only year 3.  Year 1 he went to the NCAA Regionals 

Year 1 Strong won 10 games. 

Never been a fan of Mohl and it’s solidifying that more and more each season. 

1 hour ago, Apis Bull said:

The IPF portion will be a pre-engineered metal building.  Those go up a lot faster than you might think.  Although, two-three months would be very aggressive.

It's not too long of a process, but there's no physical way it'll be ready by this fall.  I'd say spring ball of next year it will be fully functional.  I remember when Florida was building there's it got done ahead of schedule but took at least 6+ months to complete I believe. 

I think this puts them behind schedule.  Their initial date for ground breaking was April 2020. Still, only 2 months off isn't bad. 

10 hours ago, SpikeBull said:

I notice they do something I thought was illegal, they throw to center of the field!

Do you guys remember when Kerwin Bell called a pass play up the middle to Wilcox the first play of the Spring Game?  What a tease.