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  1. 26 minutes ago, puc86 said:

    Do you often hear people say that they earned their firing? Usually family and friends share the perspective of their family and friend and when someone is fired that feeling is usually aggrieved. I would  actually understand this from CJS’ perspective as according to VPMK he was his partner in doing all of the things VPMK said he valued, wanted and saw coming to fruition; none of those things ever highlighted and prioritized winning.

    He was most certainly given a fair chance.  He wasn't hired to come in and rebuild a program.  I know what you mean about it making sense for his family to say that, but I just think it's a funny take, especially considering it was behind closed doors.  I think "it just didn't work out" is a more realistic take on it.  But like you said, they are his family and it makes sense for them to support him.

  2. 12 hours ago, belgianbull said:

    I agree, but I am still hoping for a big name. I feel the last hire we got right was Taggart. Jury still out on Golesh and I have been impressed with what I have seen so far,  but still feel we could have made a bigger, more splashy hire. Hope Golesh proves me wrong on that, and I think he can.  However when Antigua, Strong, and Scott were appointed I had a sinking feeling that we made the wrong hire. I am hoping this time around not to feel the same way about the new basketball hire.

    Heard something funny about Strong this weekend.  His family and friends think he wasn't given a fair chance at USF lol.  He had the most prolific QB in USF history (arguably) and couldn't win the conference, then ended up coaching the first team in college football history to start 7-0 and not win another game for the rest of the season after that. He quite literally regressed every year and could never get an offense fluently established here. 

  3. 10 hours ago, Gat-Rat Bull said:

    After the way the Deion non-hiring went I'm sure the athletic department is keeping everything on the down low. Or... just as likely, because it's USF men's hoops, nobody in the sports rumor world noticed (or cared enough). 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I think they still kept it on the DL for the football hiring as well. This was one of the most tight-lipped hiring processes I remember from USF. All of the crazy Deion talk was from people who always acted like they were “in the know” but in reality had no idea. We interviewed Deion, but I don’t think we really know much more than that. 

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  4. 20 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

    How about Bob Richey the Furman coach? They just beat Virginia in the NCAAT. Has a 138-54 record at Furman. They were 27-7 this year; 22-12 last year. Also took them to the NIT.

    Pretty sure he was in the running and now you can get rid of any realistic talk about him coming here lol. He’ll have much better opportunities than USF. 

  5. 15 hours ago, belgianbull said:

    At some point we will have to ask what Kelly has to accomplish to keep his job, since besides an indoor training facility his record so far has been poor.  in my opinion he has 2 years to deliver the start of construction for an OCS and a complete turn around in football and basketball.  

    You don't even need to show a full turnaround that quickly.  You need to show progress, and baseball, basketball, and football have all regressed. 

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  6. 10 hours ago, Outlaw said:

    The two best receivers and the two best running backs transferred. A few back up receivers transferred Dollison, Brown, and Willis. Two Tight ends that played are are leaving and we only brought in one so far. We are left with the transfers that didn't work out  so far and lower recruits from past 3 years.  I really hope we have a plan to bring in some talent.

    What do you expect?  Roster turnover is bound to happen in a coaching change and in today's times it's going to be much different that it used to be, especially coming from a team that is used to losing.  Some of these guys just want to win immediately and found their way out.  We'll probably lose more but it's unrealistic to think that this new staff is just going to sit on their hands while this happens.  We will be fine.  It might not seem like it right now, but let things play out.  

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  7. 1 hour ago, The Sheriff said:

    Fired based on allegations. This is the time to be second chance U. We can continue to mire ourselves in mediocrity or we can give Beard a landing spot and turn our basketball program around. What say ya Michael Kelly... 

    With him and all the past talk of Gruden we really are missing a golden opportunity to become the moral standard of college athletics

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  8. 15 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

    I addition to Herman I was also referring to Lane Kiffin. Many other examples where smaller programs are able to get splash hires. However it is not my opinion hat Golesh cannot succeed at USF. He verry well could. I hope he does. Just a bigger risk in my opinion vs having gone with someone with more experience.

    I see what you mean. We saw how well hiring an OC worked for us last time. I blame the Kiffin issue on past admin, though. It’s asinine to take Strong over Kiffin. I’m fairly certain we would have gotten Kiffin had we actually tried. 

  9. 14 minutes ago, puc86 said:

    I like him more than I liked CJS but we needed a splash hire at this very moment and this could not be any further from a splash hire. As for VPMK how much worse do things need to get and for how long before you can determine that it is almost impossible to have worse results than he has produced and the longer we have followed his path the further we have removed ourselves from success and relevancy? I honestly do not believe I have observed a bigger failure at the top of anything in my entire life, if we had been bought by a private equity group in a leveraged buyout at the start of his reign we would have already surrendered our assets to the banks over a year ago, it is past time to move on as he has shown us exactly who he is and where his vision will lead us. 

    Who are we realistically going to get that’s a “splash” hire? He might not be everyone’s top choice but he’s not a bad hire at all. It seems like a lot of us have forgetting that we’re a g5 team in a conference that just got raided for better teams while we look through the window in last place. Golesh helped orchestrate the number one offense in the country and has a resume that’s a lot more versatile than being a good ole boy under only one head coach. 

  10. On 12/15/2022 at 12:18 PM, JoeB said:

    As for the script Bulls on the field, did that happen with a donation from one of the baseball players parents?  I know there were discussions about it in the stands last season, although I think they originally mentioned the Iconic U behind the plate

    No idea about that, but would love to see a giant iconic U in center field. 

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  11. On 12/13/2022 at 10:21 PM, JTrue said:

    Still very annoyed about a turf mound. That's a cardinal sin. Guys hit on turf all the time in cages and fielding on turf isn't a real adjustment. But, I can't understand asking your pitchers to adjust to throwing on both surfaces. There is a world of difference throwing when there is a dugout hole at the rubber and landing area and then you're pitching off a turf mound with neither.

    On top of that it's at our field, which means they're going to play a good portion, likely most to all, of their away games on a natural mound.  Not the adjustment you want to make for half a season.

  12. 23 hours ago, usfsig said:

    He watched film on us and liked what he saw. Couldn’t figure out why we weren’t winning with all the talent, but when he got here and did some extra homework he realized what the issue was and already has a plan to tackle that. Sounded very confident in being able to turn this around quickly. 

     

    I listened to this as well and it only reaffirmed my content with this hire. Absolutely love the start this guy is having. To be fair about him saying he saw our film, he mentioned that he saw us when he was watching film prepping for the Florida game since Tennessee played them the week after we did, so it’s not really related to him watching film after he was hired as HC. He said he had no idea how we ended up being a 1 win team, but now that he’s here he understands why and what wasn’t working. Thought that was an interesting/great comment that shows he’s trying to get to the bottom of things. He also mentioned that he really enjoys the fact that he can come in and be the coach of a previous 1 win team, and how it’s exciting to be part of the rebuild. 
     

    He’s saying all the right things and is surrounding himself with the right people. Excited to see what he can get done on the field. 

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