40 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said:

And an overall losing record with no bowl wins to show. Could of stayed at USF and more than likely dominated AAC and probably be among the schools heading to Big 12. Thanks for nothing 

So is this one of those "Give a man a fish..." parables? He did EVERYTHING we asked him to do and WE didn't maintain it. Can't erase his hard work simply because we're both miserable now. 

This thread is petty. I know another unemployed former coach too... Should I start ANOTHER thread devoted to him?

This is an interesting echo chamber. You surround yourself with people who share your opinion. Then you all confirm one another's viewpoint. In turn getting each other excited for something I don't believe many people outside of your circle want. 

Aside from Nick Saban, who constantly repeats greatness??? Who doesn't benefit from out talenting their competitors? Isn't that literally what football is?

XCWT zigged when he should've zagged. He's no worse off for it financially. He did what he said he'd do for us. He coached guys up and put them in positions to be successful. 

Left Oregon too soon. Didn't have nearly enough time or leeway at FSU and now his reputation is tinged. He knows his X's and O's, just can't recruit like he once did probably due to his reputation being damaged from lack of commitment. 

Wears new uniforms: We won on the scoreboard but loss the eye test/We lose because you wore something different.

Wears throwback uniforms: Why can't we wear something cool like all the other schools and get with the times?/How dare you play like that while wearing those colors!?!?

37 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said:

CJL does well with Twitter. They are some of the best tweets. Taggart swagger took too long to develop at USF and he jumped away from us too early. Now he is a has been coach at FAU with a losing record.  That is not swagger. 

Not to upset the CJL congregation but where has he been head coaching at since he left here? If we can overlook his time away from us (because his grass was greener as a Bull),  then we can do the same for CWT. I'd like to believe that USF has more appeal and resources than FAU. Which means CWT can do better here faster than he has at FAU.

7 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

Well, Prime Time is only ten years younger (55 yrs old).

Keep in mind that 55 years old with my fellow black folks is more like 35 IJS.

I think CJL was fantastic for when he was a coach. With the way technology is (Twitter, Tik Tok, Social media presence in general) , the portal,  N.I L.s... I think,  with all due respect, the game has passed him by. 

I miss the swagger of Taggart. We NEED that level of swagger and energy and I don't feel CJL is that type of coach.

Y'all have said "Potential Coach Prime" so much, that I have to admit I'll be slightly disappointed if it doesn't happen. That's until we start winning. I'll be happy with Jim/John whoever if it brings us out of the basement. 

Don't you dare speak ill of xcwt. You can hype up whoever you want without trying to diminish what XCWT did. 

I also think they could all truly grasp the offense which frees them up to just play. 

10 hours ago, Friscobull said:

I guess I am once again in the minority but I like to look forward and we don’t ever win anymore.  I love the memories but I don’t give a **** about the past when our present is trash. Mack was fantastic in his 3 years, he took a knee in the pros which was disrespectful as hell and I give two violation about him going to the HOF.  If Grothe is not in then is it really a USF HOF anyways.

1. Hall of Fame is about appreciating and honoring accomplishments of the past. 

2. People like you are still mad about something that's been explained ad nauseam? You're more mad at citizens reaction to a song than what's actually wrong with our nation?

3. Grothe is a fan favorite but are his numbers there? Similar to BJ Daniels and such. 

1 hour ago, CousinRicky said:

That area looks familiar. Was it a bowl game or away game?

Bowl game! Last Birmingham bowl I believe. Felt like a fanboy!

I hope he succeeds in his next stage of life. I wish he had a grief counselor and a good therapists. That's some real hurt that he's had to carry all on his own. 

I wish no one had a story like his. I'm grateful for what he did for our university, but the weight he carries on his heart from the hardships he's gone through is heartbreaking. 

I hope and pray he's able to lay those burdens down and find everlasting peace and joy. I hope he's blessed beyond measure and he truly becomes a the new man he wants to be. 

He more than deserves his happily ever after. 

That's my quarterback!!!

12 minutes ago, goingbackbull said:

My God people stop reading all this BS about Gruden.  He is a good person, just listen to his ex players they defend him as a great human being.  So what if he said stuff in an email, people say stuff ,it's how you actually treat others and knowbody has said he treated them bad.  This society of beleiving everything in text is getting to be so shameful. Look at peoples actions not what they say.   I have said so many things to freinds over my 55 years on this earth that people would say I'm racist or a homophobe or misogynistic and I am not, I follow my christian beliefs of loving everyone (but my ex wife)  and doing my best to help as well as believing everyone can succeed in life if they work hard, it doesn't matter the color of your skin or sexuality.  Just be a good person and I have nothing but love for you

I can respect this. I also know people are who they truly are, behind closed doors. Some of the worst people have the prettiest masks. You can always find skin folks on every side of an issue so their word doesn't mean much to me. I believe you can be a good person and still make terrible mistakes. People aren't all good or all bad, there are many shades of gray.

No one's perfect, I'm not asking for that. I'm asking my fellow Bulls to see just how problematic hiring him will look. We all have our confirmation biases, and people can choose to see only facts and opinions that bolster their own. I'm not trying to be combative or holier-than-thou, I just feel really uncomfortable with Gruden as a prospect because he hasn't tried to fix it. 

3 hours ago, Brad said:

More from the soon-to-be-disappointed-but-fully-warned-by-JTrue:

Dear Jim Leavitt

A letter to a legend

Bull Disclosure

3 hr ago

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Dear Jim Leavitt,

You don’t know me. We met once briefly. But I was essentially a kid. A sophomore at USF and you took a picture with my roommate and I during a basketball game on campus.

In a weird way you played a large roll in my life. As a kid who loved college football, I applied to USF solely because of the energy around the football program. I’d never been to Tampa and never heard of USF until I saw them drop Auburn fans’ jaws on the floor of their own stadium. Jessie Hester in the front corner. Such an amazing moment. This wasn’t the Florida Gators, it was something different. It was 12 years removed from being an office in a trailer and it left a Jordan-Hare stadium in complete shock. I fell for USF. I applied. I was accepted. Met my lifelong friends and my wife. I got two degrees. And the rest is history. But without what you built, many of that would be different for me and surely not accented in green and gold.

But back to you and what you built. 

 

Read the rest:

https://bulldisclosure.substack.com/p/dear-jim-leavitt?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

Awwww that's sweet. It's a legit football love letter. I can respect it. 

Jon Gruden emails, explained: Raiders coach resigns following release of damning messages

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Raiders coach Jon Gruden resigned Monday following...

I believe some of you tell on yourselves when you defend the indefensible. It's even worse when you jump in the deep end with him. 

What people use to do is no excuse for what they do now. When you know better, you should do better.  Some of you seriously seem to be attracted to the good old boy network,  and it shows. Nothing about him says home run hire, but you all are willing to pay hand over fist for him because you see yourself in him???

You simply shouldn't go from a choir boy to Chucky... There are plenty of coaches who one could assume can win immediately, that don't come with this type of baggage. We don't have to agree on much, but being a halfway decent human, should be common ground. 

I'm really not ok with Gruden. He hasn't done enough to make amends for his racist comments and feelings. 'They say it too' isn't an apology... This would turn me off of the Bulls winning or not. 

Instead of me writing a bullspen love letter, I'll simply say, I'd love to have Coach Willie Taggart and his swagger back here at USF. 

I thought I'd be happy when this news came across my screen. He's a really nice dude. I wish him success somewhere and I hope he learned from his time here. 

Just in case someone wanted a quick glance. 

4 hours ago, puc86 said:

Why would anyone do that? The argument is CJL was the only coach we ever had the evidence is this (the only other suitable answer is TJ Weist)- now if you would like to argue between CSH, CWT and CCS knock yourself out but CSH did have the best wins and coached in the best conference out of that group (ccs even had better wins than CWT, who once again had his best win in four years again the mighty owls, on his way to that impressive sub .500 win percentage)

Coach	Tenure	Seasons	Games	Record	Win percentage	Bowl record
Jim Leavitt	1997–2009	13	152	95–57	.625	3–2
Skip Holtz	2010–2012	3	37	16–21	.432	1–0
Willie Taggart	2013–2016	4	49	24–25	.490	0–1
T. J. Weist†	2016	1	1	1–0	1.000	1–0
Charlie Strong	2017–2019	3	37	21–16	.568	1–1
Jeff Scott	2020–present	3	27	4–23	.148

This is my issue with the "wins only" metric. It doesn't tell the full story. CWT was a really good coach for us. He had the energy, the drive, the swagger, and the connections to recruit. 

He took over a program that was a literal dumpster fire. He actually recruited and coached up players that are in the NFL now.  He's responsible for recruiting arguably the best QB in our program's history. 

CCS' first 2 seasons were the result of CWT's coaching and recruits in my eyes. 

I too hate the way Taggart left, but give that man his flowers. FSU was way too quick to let him go in my humble opinion. They are not the program they used to be and constantly firing coaches isn't going to fix that. 

We show the world at large that we are a reasonable athletic organization. We understand the athletic program is in bad shape and we will give you an honest shot at fixing it. That's why you give the extension.