The Year is 2016 and you are USF's AD

[zarnozdabull]

Also, lets say we had an OCS by that time, do you think there will be any Leavitt memorabilia? Even though the man was our first coach I don't like the fact that hes trying to hurt us financially this way.

[cmhatter]

i'd say no.

he shouldn't be suing the university... but hey... reputation is everything in that business.

[SRQ]

invite him and Paul Griffin to something, sometime before they're dead and gone

[USF_Grouper]

invite him and Paul Griffin to something, sometime before they're dead and gone

An arbitration meeting perhaps...  Other than that, if he wants to attend a USF athletic event he can buy a ticket.

[AGB]

I don't like the fact that hes trying to hurt us financially this way.

If he won his lawsuit, and a court ruled that USF acted improperly, would it change your opinion? If you believed he had been wronged, would you still expect him to just accept it and not seek compensation?

If Leavitt feels like he was treated unfairly, he has every reason to take the course he's taken. If it is decided that USF didn't handle the situation the way it should have been handled (for example, as it was stipulated in Leavitt's contract), that's the university administration's fault, not Leavitt's.

I was initially very sympathetic to Leavitt after he was fired, but now I've stopped caring who was right and wrong and just want the whole situation to be over with, whatever the conclusion. But I still don't know what else anyone expects Leavitt to do if he doesn't believe he deserved to be fired or if he thinks the process that led to his firing was corrupt. That you or I or anyone else might disagree with him isn't going to change his assessment.

And to answer the question, I think it will take several years to mend things, but I would want Leavitt to be a celebrated part of USF's football history. I don't think this incident should lead to him being erased from USF's memory. Ohio State still sees Woody Hayes as an iconic figure. Bobby Knight is still regarded as an amazing coach integral to Indiana's history. And so on. Leavitt obviously didn't accomplish what those guys did, but that was never the expectation, even if it becomes the expectation in the near future.

[slick1ru2]

I am thinking the Jim Leavitt Urinal for all the talent he pi$$ed away.

[USF_Grouper]

I am thinking the Jim Leavitt Urinal for all the talent he pi$$ed away.

You know that really did make me laugh.  I think it is a bit harsh and misguided considering he had a lot to do with building this program up, but still -- it was funny.

[slick1ru2]

I am thinking the Jim Leavitt Urinal for all the talent he pi$$ed away.

You know that really did make me laugh.  I think it is a bit harsh and misguided considering he had a lot to do with building this program up, but still -- it was funny.

Thanks, it was meant to be funny and a metaphor.

[cmhatter]

I don't like the fact that hes trying to hurt us financially this way.

If he won his lawsuit, and a court ruled that USF acted improperly, would it change your opinion? If you believed he had been wronged, would you still expect him to just accept it and not seek compensation?

If Leavitt feels like he was treated unfairly, he has every reason to take the course he's taken. If it is decided that USF didn't handle the situation the way it should have been handled (for example, as it was stipulated in Leavitt's contract), that's the university administration's fault, not Leavitt's.

I was initially very sympathetic to Leavitt after he was fired, but now I've stopped caring who was right and wrong and just want the whole situation to be over with, whatever the conclusion. But I still don't know what else anyone expects Leavitt to do if he doesn't believe he deserved to be fired or if he thinks the process that led to his firing was corrupt. That you or I or anyone else might disagree with him isn't going to change his assessment.

And to answer the question, I think it will take several years to mend things, but I would want Leavitt to be a celebrated part of USF's football history. I don't think this incident should lead to him being erased from USF's memory. Ohio State still sees Woody Hayes as an iconic figure. Bobby Knight is still regarded as an amazing coach integral to Indiana's history. And so on. Leavitt obviously didn't accomplish what those guys did, but that was never the expectation, even if it becomes the expectation in the near future.

if usf is found to have not given leavitt his pre-termination meeting... nobody will care...

wrongful termination as ruled by the courts could be a whole new ballgame.

[AGB]

I don't like the fact that hes trying to hurt us financially this way.

If he won his lawsuit, and a court ruled that USF acted improperly, would it change your opinion? If you believed he had been wronged, would you still expect him to just accept it and not seek compensation?

If Leavitt feels like he was treated unfairly, he has every reason to take the course he's taken. If it is decided that USF didn't handle the situation the way it should have been handled (for example, as it was stipulated in Leavitt's contract), that's the university administration's fault, not Leavitt's.

I was initially very sympathetic to Leavitt after he was fired, but now I've stopped caring who was right and wrong and just want the whole situation to be over with, whatever the conclusion. But I still don't know what else anyone expects Leavitt to do if he doesn't believe he deserved to be fired or if he thinks the process that led to his firing was corrupt. That you or I or anyone else might disagree with him isn't going to change his assessment.

And to answer the question, I think it will take several years to mend things, but I would want Leavitt to be a celebrated part of USF's football history. I don't think this incident should lead to him being erased from USF's memory. Ohio State still sees Woody Hayes as an iconic figure. Bobby Knight is still regarded as an amazing coach integral to Indiana's history. And so on. Leavitt obviously didn't accomplish what those guys did, but that was never the expectation, even if it becomes the expectation in the near future.

if usf is found to have not given leavitt his pre-termination meeting... nobody will care...

I agree that if this is the only thing that is in Leavitt's favor in the lawsuit, it won't amount to much. But there's just so much else about the investigation process that seemed rushed and unprofessional that I don't think the pre-termination meeting will be the only issue. Wrongful termination seems unlikely, but even if Leavitt deserved to be fired, he was still entitled to a proper, professional inquiry into the whole mess.

But I predict it gets settled eventually anyway, and we'll never know how a court would have ruled.