michibull

3 hours ago, belgianbull said:

I haven't really followed the latest on the Pac, but is there still a possibility that the Pac survives? 

A best of the rest PAC conference, with OSU, WSU, Fresno State (All three teams are ranked right now), Boise State, San Diego State, service academies, Memphis, Tulane, and USF would be a decent conference in my opinion, and i believe we should jump on the first opportunity that is presented to us since nothing is guaranteed in the future.

if the ACC or Big 12 were to knock on our door at a later date we could always still jump even if it costs us financially. Look at Colorado who went from Big 12 to Pac, back to Big 12.

 

Agree whole heartedly!! I think the most important thing for South Florida is to be with like minded and universities on a similar level. We cannot be in a conference with FAU, North Texas and others. A rebuilt PAC with the best of MWC and AAC or a rebuilt ACC with the best of the east is where we need to be. I think it will happen if we can keep winning. After we get to a conference like that, it will be good if we stay or jump to something bigger if the opportunity became available. Our current situation is not good for a permanent home. 

I am just so thankful that we have kept the Gold helmets for the last few weeks!!

I like how the OP was discussing one BB and it went off on another

So, we have a consensus that VPMK made a good hire!?!?

The way I see it, every coaching job is a stepping stone with the exception of a handful of schools (Notre Dame, OSU, Mich, USC, Texas, LSU and Alabama). If I were CAG and were ultra competitive and successful here; as long as USF were paying me very well (think 6-8 mil per year), had access to the CFP, and got moved to a P5, I wouldn’t move until I had an offer from one of those schools. Now, if USF was only willing to pay me 3-4 mil and the CFP went away and didn’t get USF into a P5, then I wouldn’t blame him for jumping to UF, Georgia, etc. I think as long as we can pay him in the range of what other schools will pay him and he can have the same success and exposure as P5’s (CFP), I can see him staying here. CAG seems super genuine and down to earth and that bodes well for loyalty as long as it’s reciprocated. I really like CAG and the potential is there. I  finally excited about our present and future!!

Thanks!

We obviously couldn’t afford $9mil a year, but would USF pay somewhere around $5-6 mil a year to try and keep him here when the time comes (if he has us rocking 9-3 or 10-2 records)?

44 minutes ago, jchem1995 said:

Midwest version of Colorado pre Prime. 

Haha, not quite. To be fair, in the last 10 years MSU has a couple B10 championships and a CFP and a Rose Bowl win.

Honestly, we watch Michigan State A LOT and I don’t want anyone from their team, they are not talented enough for the possible distractions they may bring. 

3 hours ago, smazza said:

acc wont have an automatic bid at that point

usf will continue to get screwed

We don’t know that for sure, but that version of the ACC would still be worth more and I’d rather play those teams than Charlotte, UNT and FAU. 

8 hours ago, Cubanbull said:

Ok, everyone needs to take a deep breath nothing has happened yet.

1. Facts are that USF won’t get in ACC as long as FSU is there.

2. The Big12 took ucf and is at 16 members if they add schools ACC ones will be looked at before USF

3. The SEC has 16 members, the BigTen has 18, really doubt any of them goes over 20. So that means at most 6 ACC schools get raided. And honestly other than FSU, Clemson, UNC and maybe Virginia as both SEC and BigTen would like a member in that state. I don’t see any other that those two would want and increase or match their payout.

4. The ACC has 17 schools not counting ND. Even if 6 left for SEC/BigTen, that would leave 11. Even if Big12 took 4 so all three would have 20 that still leaves 7 ACC schools.

5. So it really looks that if the ACC would be raided by those three, they would still have 7-9 schools and would probably add schools like USF, Navy, Tulane, Memphis, Air Force, Colorado St, SDSU. To get to 16

is that better than Big12, maybe not, but it’s better than what we have now.

Example:

East

Syracuse, Boston College,Wake Forest, Duke, UConn, Navy,USF, Georgia Tech

West

Tulane, Memphis,SMU,Air Force,Colorado St,SDSU,Stanford,Cal

 

Good analysis. As you say, a watered down ACC is still way better than what we’re in. I don’t see us being added to the B12, UCF couldn’t care less about us and the B12 have a strong conference with strong numbers, they don’t need us now, that ship has sailed. Our only realistic chance is the ACC (which would be great because Duke, UCONN, Wake Forest, Stanford and Georgia Tech have great academics and decent sports, which fits our university profile) and I would be ecstatic about that. 

11 hours ago, El_Toro_86 said:

Like the green pants white tops and gold helmet the best

11 hours ago, John Lewis said:

The one and only classic away combination.

Yes, 100%!! Should be our only away uniforms. I am just glad they keep using our gold helmets; the gold pants I am not a fan of, but I’ll take it if it means we keep our gold helmets. 

I love the stadium design, a boutique, high end experience. The design is very Florida, love all of the windows and suites. Much like has been said, not sold on St. Pete, Tampa would have been much better. Question still remains, will Stu spend on retaining young talent or still sell. The Rays model of elite scouting, player development and a “team” roster cannot withstand big money superstars. I don’t want to see players like Correa or Machado coming to the bay, it would ruin the culture; but resigning kids like Mclanahan and keeping them here would keep/help the culture. Does Stu seem like he could be a good owner and spend on homegrown kids or just another business man? Idk his style at all, that’s why I’m asking. 

55 minutes ago, 350_BULL said:

Last night I was a dinner and some friends (grads from other schools) start talking about how good the bulls looked vs bama then rice and it wouldn't stop. I immediately changed topics as I will not engage in any more hype and get hopes up. I too will take the teams mindset and just look at the next games one at a time. Feel like an old beaten dog...

I am a beaten dog as well and while I am hopeful; I will not talk of winning or what we’ve won, haha. We definitely look good, but it’s a long season and a lot can happen. 

20 hours ago, python815 said:

We Won!

 

Thanks!!

The difference between good teams and bad teams is generally consistency. Our defense has showed up strong for 2 games and our offense has had 2 good games as well. That means we are inconsistent…… now, we have shown good improvement, I believe that we can/will go 6-6 or 7-5 this year, but, we should not be favorites until we show we can play somewhat consistent. We are in our way, but will probably underdogs for a bit yet. 

I think BB showed promise last year and has had 2 ok games and 1 real good so far. It is way too early to talk about best in program history yet. I like what I have seen so far and he has more than enough potential to be out QB for his 4 years. That said, he is still real young, the transfer portal can make or break teams and coaching changes can happen. Let’s enjoy watching his development and hold off on comparisons until his senior year. 

12 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said:

College football is doing its very best to kill programs like ours, in general, with how they are structuring things and being exclusive instead of inclusive. It has to be a grassroots effort in the Tampa Bay area to grow us and we have to win - A LOT.

You’re right, that’s where students and alumni are critical. The OCS will be a big part of this for us. Boise State has that kind of culture and we can too!!

I think we will be 5-3. We could end up 6-2, but I anticipate a trip up somewhere. 

34 minutes ago, michibull said:

this is where we need/deserve to be and it’s an opportunity to. Hold our program back quicker than being hurried in a P5

Wow, should have proof read that, haha. I meant it’s an opportunity to build our program back quicker than being buried in a P5.

A lot of us said multiple times that the currentAAC sucks and nobody cares about the opponents; BUT, this is where we need/deserve to be and it’s an opportunity to. Hold our program back quicker than being hurried in a P5. Hopefully it’s not too late, but if we can go 6-6 or 7-5 this year, improve in 2024, win the conference in a year or two, we will be I. The right spot when the IVS come for fan increase. This will all feed into conference realignment. Most teams have reduced attendance, Maryland still struggles to fill their stadium except for when they play UM, OSU or Penn St. as long as we are a top team in our conference, students will show up well with the OCS and alumni will show up regardless of the opponent and that’s all that matters. Yesterday was big for us, yes, it’s a building block, but it was a first step and a very fun one at that. Go Bulls!!

If done right, I would take the 35k “boutique” style stadium over a 50-60k bowl type stadium. It’s always quality over quantity and low supply drives high demand. I really like that the Rays recognize that their game going fan base doesn’t require a 69k seating and scale down with luxury suites instead, it looks high quality and on tv a 90% full 30k attendance will look better than a 75% fill 40k stadium. Same goes for our OCS, I am really happy with the approach so far. 

I like the idea of them playing as a 2 team conference; it makes sense. They can then keep the name and rights, take whatever MWC teams they want and if they want an east division, gives us another year to improve. 

13 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Have I missed something saying GB is now available .... ?

I’ll default to you, I didn’t know he was unavailable. 

8 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

He seemed winded at times. Conditioning and learning the system will help. BB has done enough so far to  prove to me that he deserves more time

I agree, I still think there’s a lot of potential there and with time, he could be very good.