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12 minutes ago, michibull said:

I am with you on this. I used to laugh and say that UCF was being “irresponsible” with how they were spending on athletics; and that we were better than them because we were being “responsible” with our money. Man, talk about a lesson in business. It is very much risk/reward, spend money to make money.

Can you help @Triple Blearn that lesson? 

2 hours ago, hightechbull said:

What happens in phase 2 is besides the point. Not saying it doesn’t need to be figured out, just not the topic of the conversation. The point is, profit can’t come before collecting underpants. Triple B is basically saying that the reason we don’t invest at a comparable level to other AAC schools (collect underpants) is because we don’t have have the same level of revenues (profit). I’m saying that there is a clear causal relationship between USF’s level of athletic investment and the revenue produced. Additionally, there will be a period (years) where the expenses significantly exceeds the revenue.
 

Another way to think of it is, our bottom of the AAC level of investment in athletics is roughly 50% of the average in the Big 12. We would need to make a significantly larger commitment to athletic spend to be invited to the club. Look at UCF, Cincy, Houston’s level of investment over the last few years. Now look at ours and Memphis. The schools that are spending in the $70m range got invited. The ones in the $50m range got snubbed.

9 hours ago, Triple B said:

Thick is trying to equate college athletics to normal business tactics ..... but you're in good company with a portion of our fan base.

The entire world (e.g., business, sports, life) works that way:

1) Invest

2) Wait

3) Benefit

Suggesting 3 comes before 1 is crazy.

11 hours ago, Triple B said:

Gee, I wonder why they refuse to ...

Athletic Program revenues 2019:

FBS Median $70M

Cincinnati $69M

UCF $69M

Houston $75M

USF $55M

... maybe one day some will wake up and smell the ******* coffee. Administration should shoulder some of the blame but the bulk of it goes to other factors including the fact that we were a late comer to the game and the area we're located in.

 

Stop being thick. The revenues are directly related to their levels of investment. Only an idiot would think the revenues come before the investment. What kind of Wacky Wednesday world are you living in where the athletics revenues come before they invest?

The math says we won’t. USF refuses to invest in athletics at a comparable rate:

Athletic Program expenses 2019:

FBS Median $71M

Cincinnati $67M

UCF $68M

Houston $73M

USF $54M

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32754776/college-football-bottom-10-revealing-final-standings-2021

-14? I’ll take that all day. No way it’s that close. Unless UCF starts with their second string.

UCF 

63 - 14

Joiner

Horne

225

Simple question:

Is this rock bottom or can it get worst from here for football?

Left behind by UCF, only 1 mediocre FBS win, +5.5 on the Tulane game, administration still bsing on the OCS, no real path forward.

Thoughts?

You guys know who picked the DC?

This is the result of years of under investment. You “reap what you sow” and when things were good for us we chose to sow nothing. It’s only going to get worst with next years recruiting. Regarding recruiting, we will be competing for the higher end of FCS talent. We’ve drastically changed our value proposition from up and comer with the opportunity to slay giants to downward spiraling program with FCS level opponents. 
 

We need an MBA or a for-profit executive at the helm. These educators have proven to be incompetent. Look at what happened to the last guy when he got a little pressure. He folded like a cheap billfold.

I think the real answer is USF has to put their money where is or be satisfied with the current talent level. Why would a kid go to a school that underinvests in athletics when there are so many options? Imagine if you had the option of USF or UCF. The only reason you would even remotely consider USF would be because of increased playing time. Why would you get increased playing time? UCF has better players at your position.

On 9/10/2021 at 1:22 PM, Gatorbull325 said:

Awww, you feel some type of way about my predictions?  Would it make you happier if I stated that USF sucks and we will get our a$$es beat by UF? I just want you to be happy my friend. Let me know and I will **** on USF to make you happier. Either way you make a prediction, nothing is a fact until it actually happens. What if we do win? That means you spent all last week expecting a loss and bracing yourself for a loss for no reason. I'm always going to expect a win and if we don't win my spirit does not change. But if we do win, I get rewarded with a win and I was at peace the week before. Football is entertainment. If you let it drain you emotionally, than it no longer becomes entertainment but a "stressor". There is no ill will on my end with the words from this thread. My relationship with reality is not emotional. I simply accept whatever happens and move accordingly to whatever situation comes about. Why cry about s****t you can't control?

Clearly you didn’t do enough positive thinking. Looks like we are getting the **** kicked out of us like everyone but you predicted.

19 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said:

Wow, aren't you a little angry one. Hey man, you are right, I was wrong to preach a little positivity. You have every right to be miserable and bitter my friend. So I apologize for encouraging better. My man, I wish you all of the misery and bitterness you desire.

Whatever man. Stay delusional. I saw your post in the other thread about how you think USF is going to spank UF this weekend. I’m not sure what you are smoking but it is severely impacting your relationship with reality. 

7 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said:

The emotional state you "choose" to have on any journey is your choice my friend. I stand by what i wrote.  If you dont agree cool.  But at least tell me what specific statement has you feeling some type of way. Seems like i got a few people unintentionally in their feelings yet bobody can specifically state why. Anyways, you are still alright with me buddy  

1. USF winning the national title 2 seasons from now 

2. Think it and it is true BS

3. The self-help book you are trying to push on us to share this “enlightenment” you’ve uncovered.

It’s all delusional crap. Your post reminds me of talking to all those brainwashed people after “The Secret” came out. Hope that’s clear.

I don’t post often but I had to log in to comment on this post. It’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever read here. It’s a blatant denial of reality. You need to find someone nearby and ask them to shake you. Literally as hard as they can in hopes that’s some semblance of sense makes its  way into your body. 

Gold!

This thread has a very UCiFness about it.

It seems the only vote alumni has is with their wallet. Why would we give that up? I and apparently everyone else who is not spending money on this s. show are saying something very clear that seems to get ignored every year.

I was in the student section today and most of the people wearing UM gear did not look like students at all. I have no idea how they where able to get in. I also saw plenty of idiot USF students wearing a USF t-shirt with a Miami hat. I even saw a kid in USF gear throwing up the U as he walked out. Kids like this should be banned from all USF athletic events! Id rather have a few students that support USF 100%, than a packed student section filled with students that don't even support their own school.

and how would you pay the bills? 

If they fired Skip Holtz. Just kidding.. But in all seriousness an OCS fund. I would definitely spring for the donor brick with my name on it.

Wow. Dead period doesn't start until after the weekend.

Taggart must have thought the staff would do more harm than good over the next 4 days, or he wouldn't have doen anything until the dead period began.

Weird.

Actually, if he's already talked to all our committed recruits... this is a smart move. Firing them during the dead period would give the recruits time to think and have their minds wander without getting any input from CWT...

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I hope he finds a job quickly, and hopefully we find the right guy.

Some of the other contracts are worded so that if he finds a job we don't have to continue the 500K a year. They also require that he makes reasonable attempts to find employment. Anyone know if this is true for Skipper?

This is the best news since the Nevada win!