UCFChad

FYI...USF has had a 10,000 on-campus arena for their basketball program since 1980...as USF has hosted almost 450 games in that building. Till last fall, UCF only had a 4,500 seat on-campus arena for their basketball program. Yes, the crowd of 6,695 (closer to 7K than 6K) was the 2nd largest ever for UCF as only a game vs Tulsa last year drew more folks. NOTE: UCF's game vs Memphis might break the record on Jan 10th...but no clue how UCF will market that game (still can't buy single game tix...as UCF might be putting together a 2-3 game package...but they sure are waiting to the last minute to do so). This doesn't explain the "passion" from your student section much like seen at the last football game. Your little koolaid drinkers were all excited over this matchup. Question, what post season tourney are the Bulls going to, the Big Dance or the Apple one? I have watched UCF go the big dance 4 times. Hmmm*

Like it matters, if you run the tables any SEC team gets the nod for a BCS game. It's just a matter of conference perception. Therefore, my opinion is not very important. That is all, boys. sounds like someone is changing the subject. Hoops? :

I measure success by longevity and not 1 season.*

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Like it matters, if you run the tables any SEC team gets the nod for a BCS game. It's just a matter of conference perception. Therefore, my opinion is not very important. That is all, boys.

Great, which basement did CJL stuff your old worthless C-USA hoisted trophies? Hmmmmmm.* We said screw it moved into the Big East house, started getting talent (might want to wikipedia that) and went on to beat some team called ucf 4 times in a row, even the time they won C-usa (by a score of 64-12). Now we're starting this year to add some trophies, enjoy your paper weight ;D So I will stipulate that you won against us if you stipulate that you never have hoisted a conference title? Fair? ??? :

Great, which basement did CJL stuff your old worthless C-USA hoisted trophies? Hmmmmmm.* c-usa was just a stepping stone for us. For you guys its something you're proud of hence your constant yammering about your paper weight. Nice dodge.*

Great, which basement did CJL stuff your old worthless C-USA hoisted trophies? Hmmmmmm.*

Nobody would contest the superiority of the Big East to C-USA, it's what you achieve once you are accepted. Rankings aren't part of the historical equation.*

Do you boys have anything at all figured out? Yes, their is a difference in having a good team and having a good program. In order to proclaim having a good program you must at least hoist 1 conference trophy before claiming to be part of the big 3. That is all. : Congrats on being the tallest midget. Until we all start hoisting trophies and championships we all = FIU/FAU/JU/etc. Facts are facts and rankings are nothing. No one remembers them.* That's funny a lot of the kids we are recruiting seem to almost always bring up our number 2 ranking last year, guess they didn't get the memo. Also your "hardware" is nothing more than a paper weight, ours should we take care of business actually matters since it would send us to a BCS game. Have fun rebuilding the mess that you're savior made. I am sorry, what paperweights did you hoist in your non-BCS days? : ;D

Do you boys have anything at all figured out? Yes, their is a difference in having a good team and having a good program. In order to proclaim having a good program you must at least hoist 1 conference trophy before claiming to be part of the big 3. That is all. : Congrats on being the tallest midget. Until we all start hoisting trophies and championships we all = FIU/FAU/JU/etc. Facts are facts and rankings are nothing. No one remembers them.*

Do you boys have anything at all figured out? Yes, their is a difference in having a good team and having a good program. In order to proclaim having a good program you must at least hoist 1 conference trophy before claiming to be part of the big 3. That is all. :

Yep! So far it appears we've got more figured out than you! I think we regroup and shock the world.*

;D Since our game? ;D Just wondering.......

The # of UCF recruits that will be on the sideline for UCF/USF undercut the very argument that you Bulls bring that you have permanently passed us. LOL. Look to the sidelines and bring your high school recruit blue book. Once they see the facilities/on campus stadium it's over regardless of any score. I know whose coming and so should you.

I talked to a UF fan in law school today and he agreed after my discussion/thesis/essay/proposition/ that USF was beyond lucky to get into a BCS conference. He also agreed that UCF, while 0-3, will pull even within 3-4 years by virtue of O'Leary and his coaching prowes.. That is all, boys. ;D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Good and fair post until the part about getting in based on football potential. That isn't true at all, otherwise they would have taken Southern Miss. It had to do with hoops, plain and simple. I know CJL has done a great job, no one needs to take offense, but don't tell me the tailwinds weren't at your back. UCF has always faced gale force winds and luck/fate/fortune hasn't been a factor, plain and simple. That is what divides us. If it were football based potential it would have been advantage UCF, no question. By the way, a few good years for us or you doesn't make a great program. One C-USA title doesn't suddenly transform us into the big 3. That takes titles and history.

Exactly, that's why I have never held O'Leary accountable for the Titanic disaster whose name is Steve Sloan. He didn't dream big and therefore mired us into stagnation when we should have been growing faster. That is who I will soley and squarely blame if we lose on Saturday. Not O'Leary, not Tribble, not the team, no one but him. I know enough history to be confident on my position. Wasn't Sloan's problem that he dreamed too big? Passed up CUSA waiting for the SEC? He was an idiot by consensus of the UCF nation. It wasn't our fault. Nothing was, trust me I have been around a whilel

Things were way different back in the early 80's. No BCS, etc. We also didn't luck into the Big East by virtue of having a hoops team. Huh? How about the fact we were competing and winning in conferences with many of these guys when you all were DII in the 80's, and very early 90's. UCF had a head start with a football program but USF had a head start with a well rounded 1-A athletic program. Bouncing around conferences with brethren the likes of Vtech, UL, Cinci, ECU, and others garnering name recognition and respect among the athletic departments in the East. What does that have to do with the fact that luckoflakes rather than merit based football achievement landed you in a BCS conference? I mean ****, Miami of Ohio has been playing football for probably a century and is still waiting. That's what's so screwed up about D-1 football today, the sheer inequity of it all. It's only inequity if you're the one being passed up. If you guys had won ONE meaningful game in your long, sorry history, you might have had a case. As it is, the Big East laughed at you. Nothing was handed to our program for free since 1979. Not luckoflakes, not BCS realignment, not good fortune, not fair weather, nothing. That's why it has been a pleasure to see us go from BBQ fundraisers to BCS facilities and beyond. We weren't just handed everything on a plater.

Exactly, that's why I have never held O'Leary accountable for the Titanic disaster whose name is Steve Sloan. He didn't dream big and therefore mired us into stagnation when we should have been growing faster. That is who I will soley and squarely blame if we lose on Saturday. Not O'Leary, not Tribble, not the team, no one but him. I know enough history to be confident on my position.

Things were way different back in the early 80's. No BCS, etc. We also didn't luck into the Big East by virtue of having a hoops team. Huh? How about the fact we were competing and winning in conferences with many of these guys when you all were DII in the 80's, and very early 90's. UCF had a head start with a football program but USF had a head start with a well rounded 1-A athletic program. Bouncing around conferences with brethren the likes of Vtech, UL, Cinci, ECU, and others garnering name recognition and respect among the athletic departments in the East. What does that have to do with the fact that luckoflakes rather than merit based football achievement landed you in a BCS conference? I mean ****, Miami of Ohio has been playing football for probably a century and is still waiting. That's what's so screwed up about D-1 football today, the sheer inequity of it all.

Things were way different back in the early 80's. No BCS, etc. We also didn't luck into the Big East by virtue of having a hoops team.

Things much different in 2003 than 2005. Programs wax and wane, the earth spins, new discoveries are found, the struggle of life goes on. Nothing is certain nor final. ;D