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Can we stop with the stupid discussions about Floyd and fumbling the snap?

Would you like for me to move on to his 51.8% comp and 0-5 TD-INT ratio? Look, the bottom line is this offense does not suit him at all! I'm sure he can be a good QB, just not here.

Floyd's playing career here is over. He's the worst passer on the team, and can't handle a snap under center. Who knows if Eveld can handle the playbook because a decent hit on him breaks him in half. Those of you saying a freshman should never start from day 1 may as well stay home this year, cuz you gonna see either #2 or #14 under center against McNeese State on the opening snap.

Now how cool is that??? Coach Taggart was posting here all this time and we didn't even know it!!! #SMH

Try to keep your opinions and reality separate... they're not meshing well at the moment.

My opinion: White or Woulard should and will start game 1.

Reality: As of right now, we have NO answer at QB.

Mesh enough?

I don't know if it has been noted here or elsewhere, but as of at least 12-27-2012 AW has downgraded his interest in USF from High to Med per Scout.com.

That's where it should be. I find it interesting that Scout went out of its way to change that but hasn't added Godwin as a commit yet. smh

The guy he threw it to was open also. The throw was a smidge too far. If he catches it then we are raving about the aggressiveness.

White > Dinovo

This kid isn't jumping Eveld and Floyd on day 1. By the end of the year, both AW and MW may be ahead of their incumbents.

Floyd became 4th string as soon as Taggart was hired.

If we are lucky enough to have AW come here, let them all duke it out over the offseason with no one QB favored over the other. Winner starts game 1, seems easy enough to me?

It will be either AW v White or White v. Eveld.

Floyd's playing career here is over. He's the worst passer on the team, and can't handle a snap under center. Who knows if Eveld can handle the playbook because a decent hit on him breaks him in half. Those of you saying a freshman should never start from day 1 may as well stay home this year, cuz you gonna see either #2 or #14 under center against McNeese State on the opening snap.

That's AW's choice.... if the kid wants to succeed he needs to sit a year... if he wants to end up being a nobody they by all means... throw him to the wolves.

In this offense, you don't need to be a superstar QB right away. This is the offense that will protect him during his development and once he gets it, then the options will be infinite!

I have shifted my discussion to the AW thread. I agree to lock this as well.

This kid is a super sleeper. I would say he would be #3 going into camp if AW comes along. #2 if not.

AW has SEVERAL offers! Including an SEC offer and several other BCS offers. It's not just USF v. NCST! Trust me! Schools have a little over a week to phone him up and offer. Not saying he will get them, but don't be shocked if schools like Tennessee, TCU, and Arkansas slip an offer in right before he makes this decision on Jan 5th. And even then they could still offer and hope he flips. Everybody saying DiNovo > Woulard may very well be on meth.

And those wondering why he doesn't have hundreds of SEC offers... it's because he has only been playing QB for two years!! So for this kid to get the accolades he has gotten in just two years time, makes his ceiling quite high. But SEC and other top programs don't have to take this small risk because they can get a much safer commit at QB.

We kinda did the same thing, snagging White before another school got a steal, which I think White is. He's a solid insurance policy but I wouldn't put the ball in his hands in 2013. AW I would.

I said legit offers.... as in ones where the school would actually accept his commitment. That's 2 schools... USF and NCST.... Ole Miss has an offer and they'd probably accept a commitment but it's 50/50 right now.

Tennessee has moved in another direction and AW doesn't exactly fit in the offensive schemes at ARK and TCU. He wants to play... that's 2 options... USF and NCST.

Outside of the made for TV skills contest where the MVP award is completely arbitrary what accolades has he accomplished?

For someone you want so badly I can't understand why you want to hamper his growth by starting him from day one in 2013. No one.... not a single person outside of his father that has actually seen him play says that he'll be ready to compete next fall as a QB. If he comes here... and if you want him to succeed as a high level player here, you need to understand that he needs to sit for at least a season to develop and understand the game.

AW is a great athlete... right now he's an ok QB... but outside of the Elite 11 contest he hasn't accomplished much of anything.... try to keep a bit of perspective.

This is from the Dinovo thread but I will bring it over here since it pertains to AW. Woulard will not come here to sit a season. If he does come here (and that "if" is becoming bigger by the day), he will be the favorite in fall camp. I would say it would be between him and Eveld with White at #3. Floyd will prolly transfer after camp or after the season.

I think Taggart would've gone for that too. Play to win! Not to tie! They did it all year. See Kentucky game.

For those not keen on twitter, Badet tweeted about Taggart calling him right after he tweeted that he might set up a visit with Kentucky soon.

Could mean Randy Shannon is staying put...

He's gonna make a decision on Jan 5th? Kind of like his last 2 "decisions". Kid doesn't know a decision from his elbow, and that's being kind. Sick of the AW show. He'll never throw a pass in D1.

Yes, at the ARMY All American game on NBC. And do you care to place a wager on that he won't throw a pass in D1???? I say whoever is wrong never posts here again.

Man if that's true, it just seems like these RB prospects are dropping like flies.

AW has SEVERAL offers! Including an SEC offer and several other BCS offers. It's not just USF v. NCST! Trust me! Schools have a little over a week to phone him up and offer. Not saying he will get them, but don't be shocked if schools like Tennessee, TCU, and Arkansas slip an offer in right before he makes this decision on Jan 5th. And even then they could still offer and hope he flips. Everybody saying DiNovo > Woulard may very well be on meth.

And those wondering why he doesn't have hundreds of SEC offers... it's because he has only been playing QB for two years!! So for this kid to get the accolades he has gotten in just two years time, makes his ceiling quite high. But SEC and other top programs don't have to take this small risk because they can get a much safer commit at QB.

We kinda did the same thing, snagging White before another school got a steal, which I think White is. He's a solid insurance policy but I wouldn't put the ball in his hands in 2013. AW I would.

Glad to see BJ and his god awful decision making go.

I'll miss Landi, he was a stand-up guy on and off the field.

You enjoyed the last three games, didn't you?

I didn't enjoy anything about last season.

People act as if we were undefeated until BJ got hurt.

I also had a bad run-in with BJ at dining hall on campus because he thought he was hot **** all the time cutting people so I've never been fond of him but thats another topic.

We weren't undefeated, but at least we scored touchdowns. And I'm sure he's not the only football player that thinks he's hot **** and cuts in line at the dining hall. I'm not trying to make you miss BJ, but this thread is football-related.

Don't know how Coach Skip Holes managed to miss and muff this. Right in our backyard and an early graduate who could be ready to go next fall. SMH. And 1st team ALL Suncoast Robert Davis who is crying for a USF offer. Come on CWT get after him.

Times' all-Suncoast football

The Hometeam Blog

Mon. December 24, 2012 | Times Staff

Offensive Player of the Year: QB Pete DiNovo, Sr., East Lake

It has been a whirlwind two weeks for Pete DiNovo.

After competing in the Pinellas senior all-star game Dec. 12, DiNovo was in Orlando two days later for his official visit to the University of Central Florida, where he committed this past summer. From there, DiNovo went to Sebring for the Florida Athletic Coaches Association all-star game Dec. 19. Then it was back to school for final exams and officially being declared an East Lake High graduate.

So it was understandable that DiNovo fell asleep on the commute for a photo shoot as the Times’ all-Suncoast Offensive Player of the Year.

“I’m just looking forward to a few days of relaxation,†DiNovo said.

Sure, the past few weeks – and months – have been busy, but they also have been awfully good.

This season, DiNovo established himself as the area’s best quarterback, as well as the most prolific passer ever in Pinellas County. The 6-foot-3, 205-pounder set county career records for passing yards (6,733) and touchdowns (59), as well as Pinellas’ single-season record for passing yards with 2,980. He also threw for 25 touchdowns and led the Eagles to an 11-2 record and the Class 8A region finals, where they lost to No. 1 ranked Orlando Dr. Phillips.

“Pete was huge as far as his ability to play quarterback and be a leader,†East Lake coach Bob Hudson said. “You only get guys like that every once in a while in your coaching career.â€

DiNovo only gets a week to relax. He returns from a graduation cruise with family and friends Jan. 5, the same day he reports to UCF for his first semester. He decided to enroll early so he could be ready for spring practice. The Knights coaching staff also wants him to serve as a host for incoming recruits.

“It’s been crazy everything that has happened,†DiNovo said. “I was excited for the season that we had, and I’m just as excited to start the next chapter in college.â€

Defensive Player of the Year: CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Sr., Wharton

On nights when Jackie Hargreaves would cook and her husband Vernon Hargreaves invited his players over for dinner, their son would often find himself pulled into games of pick-up basketball.

Of course, it was a tall order for Vernon III to keep up with University of Miami football stars like Reggie Wayne, Jonathan Vilma and Vince Wilfork.

But Vernon III refused to back down, mimicking their swagger and convincing himself he was one of their peers.

“I felt like I was part of the team,†said Hargreaves, whose father was a linebackers coach at Miami from 1998-2005. “So I learned from them. And if I lost to them, I’d just start crying and getting upset.â€

Years later, Hargreaves is poised to follow in the footsteps of his former houseguests.

A Florida commit and consensus five-star recruit, Hargreaves is our choice for all-Suncoast Defensive Player of the Year. Indeed, the 5-foot-11 and 190-pound senior might have fit in well on some of those old Hurricanes teams.

In the summer, Hargreaves asked his coaches to move from cornerback to safety so offenses could stop avoiding him. In the fall, he set about showing his coaches and opponents that it was the right move.

Hargreaves tallied 110 tackles, five interceptions, five forced fumbles and five pass deflections. He also made his presence felt in other phases of the game, scoring five touchdowns and five two-point conversions, serving as the holder and blocking a punt.

In his final high school game against top-ranked Orlando Dr. Phillips, Hargreaves put on one last Friday night show: 10 tackles, a forced fumble, two receptions for 27 yards - including a highlight-worthy one-handed grab for 21 yards, and 19 rushing yards.

He plans to take some of that old “The U†bravado to Gainesville, where he’ll likely focus solely on playing cornerback. Several fall Saturday trips to the Swamp have convinced him he’s ready for the challenge.

“They treated me like I was already on the team,†he said. “I can’t wait to get up there.â€

Coach of the Year: Mike DePue, Robinson

Destiny threw a rod at DePue just before he reached the glorious final exit of his tenure. The Knights’ excruciating 24-20 loss to Tallahassee Godby in the Class 5A semifinals ended the coaching career of the retiring 60-year-old Port Tampa fixture, but not before he became the program’s all-time winningest coach (72-43). DePue’s final Knights team set a state record with 13 defensive touchdowns and established a program mark with 535 points.

First-team offense

QB Will Worth, Sr., Newsome: Engineer of Hillsborough’s No. 2-ranked offense accounted for team-leading 2,600 yards, 30 TDs and 104 tackles

RB Robert Davis, Sr., Carrollwood Day: Career county rushing king ran for 2,221 yards in 2012

RB David Emmanuel, Sr., Pasco: Averaged almost 10 yards per carry while scoring 17 TDs

RB Janarion Grant, Sr., Pasco: North Suncoast offensive player of the year accounted for 20 TDs and scored five ways

RB Jamarlon Hamilton, Sr., Durant: Punishing fullback tallied 1,340 yards and 20 TDs

OL Bruce Hector, Sr.,, Robinson: Agile two-way force was best of an all-senior offensive line

OL Mason Cole, Jr., East Lake: Four-star recruit made biggest impact in pass protection

OL Connor Rafferty, Sr., Robinson: Knights legacy was team’s most physical lineman

OL Cameron Ruff, Sr., Jesuit: USF commitment also had five sacks on defense

OL Isaiah Wynn, Jr., Lakewood: Six-foot-3, 285-pounder pushed linemen around all season

WR Artavis Scott, Jr., East Lake: Had 994 yards and 10 TDs despite missing time with ankle injury

WR Jonathan Moore, Sr., Jefferson: Established himself as latest great Dragons wideout with 1,037 yards, 12 TDs

WR Andrew Meyer, Sr., Fivay: Led Pasco County with 1,028 receiving yards and 12 TDs

K William Few, Sr., Plant: Set school record with 13 FGs, including a long of 48 yards

ATH Juwan Brown, Sr., Largo: Threw for 17 TDs and led Packers to undefeated regular season

KR Trey Larry, Sr., Clearwater Central Catholic: Big-play threat returned four kicks for scores.

Second-team offense

QB Zain Gilmore, Sr., Robinson

RB Jarvis Stewart, Jr., Largo

RB Matt Breida, Sr., Nature Coast

RB Martin Ruiz, Sr., Robinson

RB Diquan Walker, Jr., Clearwater Central Catholic

OL Terry Linton, Sr., Anclote

OL Brandon Pertile, Sr., Countryside

OL Will Allen, Sr. Springstead

OL Alex Wood, Sr., Durant

OL Zach Hiller, Jr., Newsome

WR Karel Hamilton, Sr., Strawberry Crest

WR Marquez Valdes, Sr., Lakewood

WR Brad Hyman-Muhammad, Sr., Admiral Farragut

K Brandon Ray, So., Pasco

ATH Alvin Bailey, Sr., Armwood

KR Malik Johns, Jr., Pasco

First-team defense

DL Morgan Flournory, Sr., Pasco: North Suncoast defensive player of the year tallied 22.5 sacks

DL Harry Brown, Sr., Largo: Wreaked havoc with 60 tackles and six sacks

DL Ernest Suttles, Sr., Gaither. Iowa State commit logged 88 tackles, 12 sacks

DL Joey Ivie, Sr., Pasco: Florida commit dominated with 89 tackles and 12 sacks

LB Rocky Enos, Sr., Wharton: Hard-nosed defender had one game with fewer than 10 tackles

LB JJ Johnson, Jr., Robinson: His six defensive TDs included three in one game

LB Mitchell Wright, Sr., Plant: USF commit tied for team lead with 10 sacks, had 109 tackles

LB Luke McLeod, Sr., Springstead: Led Eagles to district title with 149 tackles and four sacks

DB Leon McQuay III, Sr., Armwood: Nationally coveted free safety had five INTs, 54 tackles

DB Mike Stevenson, Sr., Clearwater Central Catholic: Wake Forest commit had 94 tackles and three INTs

DB Jeremiah Green, Sr., Hillsborough: Reigning state triple jump champ had five INTs, 54 tackles

DB Shaquill Griffin, Sr., Lakewood: UCF commit had three interceptions for stout Spartans defense

P Sean Covington, Sr., St. Petersburg: UCLA commit averaged more than 46 yards per kick

UTIL Derrick Doss, Sr., Largo: Pinellas County defensive POY had 73 tackles and an INT

Second-team defense

DL Justin Madison, Sr., Robinson

DL Vincent Jackson, Jr., Jesuit

DL Rohan Blackwood, Jr., Nature Coast

DL Jordan Adderley, Sr., Clearwater Central Catholic

LB Shaquem Griffin, Sr., Lakewood

LB Adekunle Olusanya, Sr., Sickles

LB Jeremiah Jackson, Jr., Hernando

LB Quentin Cumings, Sr., Palm Harbor University

DB Tyrail Hawkins, Sr., Hernando

DB Tyler Serpo, Countryside

DB Keivontae Turk, Sr., Jefferson

DB Paris Bostick, Sr., Plant

P Nick Feely, Sr., Armwood

UTIL George Campbell, So., East Lake

Honorable mention

Admiral Farragut: Todd Macon; Anclote: Willie Barrett, Tymere Carter; Armwood: Kyle Gibson

Carrollwood Day: Andy Embody; Countryside: Mike Love, Zach Rosinski, Ryan Pandy, Ryan Yates; Fivay: Tyler Degen, Davion Sutton, Kevin Faulkner; Freedom: Max Orr; Hernando: Robert Hill Bronson; Hillsborough: Nigel Harris; Lakewood: Rodney Adams; Largo: Frankie Hernandez, Cordell Hudson; Mitchell: Foster Artlip, Sam Miller; Nature Coast: Josh Benyola, Frank Sampson; Northeast: Auggie Sanchez; Pasco: Ajee Carr; Pinellas Park: Tyree Graves, Eric Hampson; Plant: Wesley Bullock; Sickles: Ray Ray McCloud; Springstead: Pedro Estrada, Nick Bailey; Sunlake: Eddie Burgos, Aaron Protch, Connor Gilboy; Tampa Bay Tech: Richard Benjamin; Wharton: Chase Litton<p>

http://www.tampabay....football/16129/

Why is a post about Pete Dinovo suddenly moved to the Robert Davis Thread? You can't leave for a half hour without having to go looking for your posts again. It's supermod, Trip at work I'm sure. Don't go out driving , ok, Trip?

You mentioned Robert Davis in your initial comment and then highlighted him! I think I can see why....

I have been hearing about Asiantii and a cheerleader at USF. He is having a convo with one on twitter. Maybe his gf??? C'mon AW!!!!! Follow the girl!!! Always the best decision. lol

New hat, shirt, and a towel.

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   Randy Shannon possibly to USF? hmmmmm. No one else has picked up Shannon yet?
   

And why HASN'T shannon been picked up????? Think about it.

Glad to see BJ and his god awful decision making go.

I'll miss Landi, he was a stand-up guy on and off the field.

You enjoyed the last three games, didn't you?

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6h Braxton Watson ! â€@DtrackstaP

@IamFeedMe u still commited to the U

6h Travis Johnsonâ­ â€@IamFeedMe

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@DtrackstaP if they offer

Well ****

Well of course he would rather go to FSU than USF.