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1 hour ago, belgianbull said:

Yes, I agree. Its hard to predict which players will produce. The problem right now is that we are an AAC team that just won 4 games in three years, so 4-5 star high school recruits, or players that started and produced in FBS last year are not jumping to come to USF right now, with a few exceptions. The hope is that coach Golesh is able to find the right type of players who might not have the resume, and who might have flown under the radar, but can be coached up or developed to help USF get wins next year. If we start winning recruiting will pick up. Also better coaching will help, and you might see players develop that nobody expects; even players that didn't contribute last year.

Also there is time  left until I believe after Spring training to bring players in through the transfer portal ( remember Bohanon last year I believe). Hopefully he will be able to bring in more players to shore up defensive needs.

I am not saying we should not hit the portal.  I am merely saying the portal is not a be all, end all.  As evidenced by the fact that we pillaged the portal last year and won 2 games.

3 hours ago, Cubanbull said:

Which six players from DLine are you referring too?

Cheney from Minnesota started and was our best DT last year. Bags from Temple got much playing time. Pinder from UNC never made it to school, neither did Ash from Wake Forest.. so from my records , two came in and they both produced.

We are there again because only two are in team from last year.

They produced?  All I have heard all season is how horrible the DLine was this year.  That doesn't sound like good production to me.  We were consistently destroyed by any semblance of a running game.  I was speaking of DLine.  But you are correct.  We got four DTs, two of them were unable to play and two played poorly.  Thanks for confirmng my point.

And yet again. I am not saying not to go to the portal.  Someone said "this player was rectuited to a big school. If we get that player from the portal, all our problems are solved."

We got four last years and none of our problems were solved.  That is my point.

1 hour ago, Dave_Glaser said:

I don’t think anyone would argue that point. So we won’t know until we know, right? It’s all speculation. But I think we might all be able to agree that, looking at the roster, interior d-line needs some more bodies. We can’t be playing guys who are 230-250 pounds in there and expect to stop anyone.

Certaintly not saying we don't need DLine help, clearly we do.  And sure one would *hope* to get a *leftover* from a big time school that works out.  My only point was the premise that "this guy was on the bench at **** school, so clearly he is an immediate upgrade for us."  That part isn't really how things work.

15 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said:

Is it your point that we shouldn’t be signing guys from the portal - period? Or just D-linemen from the portal?

My point is that we have no idea of any particular player we sign will help or not.  I know it is fun to speculate.  But a guy from JuCo is as likley to succeed as a guy who flamed out a good school.  A guy like GB who succeeded on the field is one thing.  But a guy that didn't see the field for a "big" school really doesn't mean much

11 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

You must also need to account, the type of players Tennessee attracts vs USF. Just because a kid can’t break into starting role at UT doesn’t mean he can’t at USF. We had one of the worse defensive line in college football. 

Doesn't mean they can.  Didn't we pull like six transfer portal guys on the DLine last year?  Did they improve the DLine sognificantly?  If so, why are we there again?

21 hours ago, Brad said:

Yeah, that wasn't the premise.  It was more that he was not being guided by stars as a worthy measure of talent. 

Coach Go seemed to decide for himself, not a rating service.  Star services can be used by some to generally categorize players based on highlight tapes, yes.  

Exactly this.  A recruiting service has one person looking at highlight reels of hundreds of players and combining that with the offers they have supposedly recieved to determine a star rating.  It says nothing about a fit a player might have in a certain system, nothing about the drive, commitment.  USF had many people sifting through tape and then doing deeper dives on a smaller subset of players.  Recruiting is far more nuanced than a general star rating based on a 20 minute review of highlights.

On 12/20/2022 at 12:36 PM, Dave_Glaser said:

Jordan Phillips (Tennessee transfer) and Desmond Mamudi (Virginia Tech transfer) - if they are as advertised out of high school - immediately fix our depth issue at DT. Will be interesting to see if they end up Bulls.

So, if they were as advertised, would they be in the Transfer Portal?

On 12/22/2022 at 5:58 AM, Cornada said:

He didn't play the last two games.  That's a quitter in my book (unless he was injured or he broke some team rule). 

You have no idea what may or may not have happened, yet you have made a decision.  But you caveat the decision.

Interesting.

2 hours ago, Cornada said:

There may be more to it, but from my perspective it appears that he's a quitter, so why do we want him back?

Because there is likely more to it, and humans are complex beings.  Deciding from afar that a person you have never once spoken to is a quitter is going to often be an incorrect conclusion, unless the player takes of his jersey and walks off the field in the middle of a game.

6 hours ago, Triple B said:

Just took 12 months to actually build the IPF so I think that same amount of time for an ocs is a little ambitious ....... but do think 2026 should be doable, hopefully.

More resources = less time.  26k seat soccer stadium in Orlando got built in about 12 months.  In some ways it was more complex.  Certainly there can be variables on the time aspect.  But 2026 season is almost 4 years away.  Plenty of time.

19 minutes ago, smazza said:

if you think it will be done by 2026 i say dream

Not at all, if the money is there.  The biggest hold up is never construction it is land acquisitions and right of way, etc.  If this is USF land, that is mostly a non-issue. Get the money right and this takes maybe 12 months to actually build at most.

16 hours ago, E.T. said:

This will be for our stadium upgrade in 10 years after our National Championship season.

I mean, I would rather it have a lot more green and gold, personally. 

3 hours ago, Brad said:

The people have spoken.

CAG is the official, board-certified nomenclature established to refer to USF Football Head Coach Alex Golesh.

Goach sadly loses out...

Now that we have that settled we can get back to telling CAG who he must hire as his assistants. 

1 hour ago, Brad said:

And we need to have a little self-respect.  Would we willingly hire the guy and as part of the reasoning use "USF would be a great stepping stone to FSU for DS"?  I can't believe people even said that.  But they did.  Sad, loser talk.

Did I miss something, or do Brad and I actually agree?

Would love to see him get a run with the Bucs, but RB has not been the problem with this Bucs team.  Bucs need Mike White more than they need MM.

2 hours ago, BDYZR said:

I love it! "Hey man, I coming for your job... Stop me if you can."  GO BULLS!

Oh, I love the confidence!  But he could have said "I am that good" instead of "they are that bad."  He is going to basically have to live with these guys, the ones that don't transfer out, anyway.  You want them to pull for each other, not mock each other.  

In any case, glad to have him because we do suck in the secondary.

On 11/14/2022 at 8:03 PM, Gobulls90 said:

From a rivals interview…he’s not wrong.

I mean, he's right.  But do you really want to tell your new teammates they suck?

On 12/7/2022 at 5:08 PM, BayIslandBull said:

Not good. I'm fine with former UCF coaches being hired, but not graduates. This is a red flag that Golesh doesn't seem to understand this. 

 

 

He is going to torpedo a potential 40 year career by intentionally doing a crappy job now?  This isn't how anything works.

1 hour ago, Peatearpan said:

Atlantic Sun, WAC teams pairing up to attempt move to FBS, sources say

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Members of the Atlantic Sun and WAC have agreed to form the foundation of...

New FBS conference forming? All out west teams also. 10 teams to start and immediately seeking 4 more candidates for expansion. FBS may go from 130-something to mid-140s for number of teams.

Another potential landing spot for USF.  Good news!

Just now, El_Toro_86 said:

Hopefully: Todd Orlando>Bob Shoop

Is it possible for Todd Orlando < Bob Shoop?

23 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

Could you imagine? That'd be better than Coach Prime

 

Not to burst any bubbles, but I am fairly sure DB works closely with USF atletics in his role with the Vinik Group.

On 12/4/2022 at 11:26 AM, jjlovecub said:

I’m sorry but with a weaker conference this is not acceptable. We cannot have a two win season

Weaker?  Tulane is staying.

37 minutes ago, E.T. said:

We'll know DC today, he's hired.

The Best DC in the country.  We are already winning.

21 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

This is true.  But I do think they get credit for investing in the program and making it a priority.  Something we haven't done since the Jim was fired up until the past few years.  I'd like to have an OCS, but we play in a great stadium.  If CAG wins some games with an exciting offense no less, then we are primed for big things

The stadium came about because they were ticked off at Orlando for renovatijg the Citrus Bowl without their input. It was the absolute cheapest thing they could buy.  I have been in nicer high school stadiums.  And the IPF...wow.  The only real investment was O'Leary.  And that wasn't a huge investment and his returns were uneven to say the least.

13 hours ago, DirtyBirdEarl said:

UT fan here. No he isn't the main play caller. They did share the duties. He's a great recruiter. He's great at finding mismatches in the defense. Overall your getting a good coach. UT fans are gonna miss him. I think it's a solid hire.

Thank you for the rational input.