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19 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

We got a free 3 months of Apple TV when my wife got her new iPad. Well worth watching. Trial is up later this month but now hooked on The Morning Show. May have to put up the $8 or whatever for another month.

Shrinking is a must watch. 

Just now, 2000bull said:

curious as to what would happen to the exit fees owed by the big12 defectors 

That still goes to whatever schools are left, I assume.  I don't see why disillusion would obviate those responsibilities that have already been established.

If the AAC votes to be dissolved, that would release the remaining schools from having to give exit fees.  Now, the threat to dissolve may be enough to give the remaining schools incentive to negotiate a small exit fee package and keeping the AAC branding, etc.

Just now, flsportsfan83 said:

thought it took a supermajority to dissolve?

I keep seeing 8.

3 minutes ago, TallyBull said:

Makes sense if it only takes 8 to dissolve the conference. But I don’t know that to be the case. Could be 75%, which would be 11 (if my math is right)?

I have read everywhere it only takes.  I have not read the bylaws.  But 8 would be a majority, so that makes sense.

1 minute ago, Who'sYourData? said:

The point is that the PAC would take 8.  If four are on board to leave to the PAC, the AAC will be considerably weaker.  You offer the next four a life raft in the PAC conference, and you instantly have 8 votes to dissolve the AAC so there are no exit fees.

Big cities and AAU status.  Stanford is calling the shots and that is important to them.

The MW has a bigger out clause to pay to get out, I understand.  That drops significantly in a year.  You get 8 from the AAC now because you need 8 to dissolve the AAC.  Then you add four more western schools and you have two divisions of 8, half on each side which makes scheduling much less of a problem.

2 hours ago, TallyBull said:

Of course he doesn't name the schools (I'll let you deduce why) but if true (big if) I'd say they're the AAU schools in big cities and SMU: USF, Rice, Tulane, and SMU. Not sure how this could create leverage to get the AAC to vote to dissolve - I'd imagine that would require a 75% vote. 

The point is that the PAC would take 8.  If four are on board to leave to the PAC, the AAC will be considerably weaker.  You offer the next four a life raft in the PAC conference, and you instantly have 8 votes to dissolve the AAC so there are no exit fees.

Big cities and AAU status.  Stanford is calling the shots and that is important to them.

9 hours ago, I like GOOOOLD (and green) said:

Not really looking like that at all.  Wouldn’t want to leave guaranteed money for that mess anyway.

Absolutely looking like that, and for good reason.  Check out how many $$$ the PAC will get from NCAAB tourney over the next few years.  Also the name is still worth something.  Stanford is in the best negotiating position of any of the schools.  It could still go any which way, but disbanding the AAC makes a lot of sense.

7 hours ago, lotsofbull99 said:

I prefer to work smarter, not harder.

Both are required to be the best you can be.

5 minutes ago, John Lewis said:

I'd have a difficult time believing that Miami wouldn't vote the same way FSU would.

Miami is a private AAU school with much different economics than FSU.  Other than the fact both are in Florida, they are vastly different schools with vastly different needs.  I have a difficult time believing they would see eye to eye on much of anything.

31 minutes ago, MaltLiquorBull said:

@Who'sYourData? Is the CJS quote in your signature also sarcasm?  

Thanks for noticing!  

4 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Ahh. Totally missed that. My apologies.

Clearly I was not as clever as I believed myself to be.  

1 minute ago, CousinRicky said:

Thought you could commit anytime even as a FR in high school.  Early signing day is in Dec and regular signing day first week of Feb.

Mine was an attempt at sarcasm vs the previous staff.

17 hours ago, Cubanbull said:

USF has now 13 commits and leads the AAC and at #63 Overall .

Golesh doing a good job recruiting.

Alvon Issac Ath from Villages Charter School 5’10 170 .8417 ranking at 247

Are we allowed to have commitments before Dec 1st?  Based on the last few years, I thought this practice was banned.

Another excuse for a bunch of people to vent about the same thing all over again.  Can someone just attach one of the previous 4 dozen threads on the same subject so everyone does not have to repeat themselves?

Where is all of the above?

13 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

But they did manage to kick the SAT and ACT to the curb.

Adding an option equates to kicking other options to the curb?  Really, Ricky?

2 hours ago, Jim Johnson said:

So the USF defense goes from ASLEEP to A SLEEPER in one season?

 

I often pretended to sleep while our defense was on the field the last two years so I could keep my eyes closed.

19 minutes ago, michibull said:

I have never understood why AAC agreed to a TV contract with CBS knowing most games would be on CBSSN, not gonna reach many people (myself included ). 

Ditch cable, use Hulu or YoutubeTV.  Done!

23 minutes ago, Brad said:

If I'm Golesh, I get my first sacrifice ready... 

If I'm Mohl I hire a good bench coach and take over as pitching coach again.

On 5/24/2023 at 10:08 AM, Brad said:

Yet so many have athletics....what do they know that many here don't?

I'd like to know how it drains academics, save for the drama it kicks up.  We'll save that for another thread.

The case for big-time college sports helping academics remains weak | College football | The Guardian

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The University of Houston is hoping an extra boost to its teams will increase the school’s standing. But athletics can lead to even more debt

"But athletic prominence comes at a price. President since 2008, Khator has overseen an outlay of hundreds of millions of dollars into athletics: a bet that spending heavily on football and basketball, alongside improved academic offerings, adds value to the institution. A university spokesman declined to comment for this article.

Revenues have risen but Houston’s athletics expenses soared from $39.5m in 2014 to $73.7m in 2019 – less than half the amount that the top 10 schools spend but still a hefty amount. A handful of athletics departments, such as Texas (which has newly renovated one end of its football stadium at a cost of $175m) are profitable. Many others, such as Houston, subsidise sports programmes through funds from the university’s wider budget, mandatory student fees of hundreds or even thousands of dollars each year, and donations."

1 hour ago, michibull said:

Wow, what a conversation. I am of this stand point. Professor and strictly academic people have their priorities (education, research and patents), which brings in money for the school. Athletics departments have their priorities (winning, sponsors, TV) which brings in money for the school. While both bring in money, they both CAN elevate the schools brand and reputation at the same time, which further helps BOTH departments. It’s naive to think one or the other doesn’t help. Like much of this world, it’s a gray area. Athletics can be the welcome mat of the university to get kids interested and excited about the school, provide a fun and enriching experience and lasting alumni and donor ship; academics provides a quality education and value for the future prospects of the student. They are very much both apart of a quality educational experience. 

Athletics brings in money for athletics.  Not for the school as a whole.  Its naive to think that it does.

Is it fun?  Sure.  Does it help the on campus environment?  Arguably.

Does it benefit academics? The vast majority of the time it is a drain on academics.

2 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said:

Do you think that Bama's prowess on the football field hasn't raised its profile and benefitted the university in other ways?

Obviously it has not raised their academic profile.  What "other ways" should a university focus on to get better?  Have killer tailgates?  Learn how to apply better facepaint?

18 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said:

While they are truly bright folks, the academics ALWAYS have a tough time grasping the concept that a strong, visible athletic program positively impacts every aspect of a university - admissions, infrastructure, fundraising, alumni engagement, etc., etc. It’s not really that difficult, but wouldn’t it be shocking to read a story where a leader on the academic side of a university says, “Hell yeah! Let’s do it! All boats rise.”

USF faculty not sold on Bulls’ $340 million football stadium plan

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“It seems to me like the dangers outweigh the positives,” the Faculty Senate vice president says.

 

Gee, Alabama must certainly be an AAU school, at least?  Right?

7 minutes ago, Rizman said:

I think it helps all of the University just in ways you cannot always measure. 

2 hours ago, Outlaw said:

I would bet the professors at Florida and Bama get to see some extra research money from the SEC in some way make it to fund buildings , projects, and research. 

Not a single dollar.