Joe

12 minutes ago, JTrue said:

More people are anti-Joey than there are Joey's that are anti-USF?

I laughed. Well played.

7 minutes ago, IBulleve said:

Joey Knight is an idiot. That goes without saying 

Based solely on this response, I'm sure people say that about you too.

Relax people...it will all play itself out.

Can we just for once lay of Joey? People think he's anti-USF, when the reality is that more people are just anti-Joey. For Effs sake.

Team has a lot of work, but it was really nice to put one away early.

Seems like it would be a ADA violation if they didn't.

1 minute ago, Apis Bull said:

I have nothing to base this on, but I'm thinking that if it's only two, there's a good chance that it could be us and UCF.  All the other candidates have opposition from within the conference for a variety of reasons (BYU, the Sunday thing and the LGTB thing; Houston, already in Texas; Cincinnati, apparently WVU recruits in Ohio and doesn't want the competition).  Us and UCF are the only teams that bring a new fertile recruiting ground and large TV markets.

I could be totally wrong though.

I wish I could agree. I think the consensus is Florida's only shot is expansion by 4.

The recruiting thing is so vastly over played and overrated.

The big schools that would really even care about the recruiting angle in the Big 12 are built on the plentiful Texas based recruits. Highly doubtful that they'll see recruiting Florida, which is already competitive as a valuable source of recruiting funds.

likewise, under this theory ACC/PAC/Big 10 expansion would have hit up places like Texas or Florida instead of Kentucky, New Jersey, or Colorado 

55 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

The University of Florida hasn't played a regular season non-conference road game outside the state since 1992. They have ZERO interest in scheduling any quality non-conference opponent other than the required FSU game.

They're playing Michigan in Dallas to open next year. I know because I'm going with my dad and brother.

Preseason watch lists are the worst of the worst, done with the sole purpose of getting schools to promote their awards.

Cincy starts camp today. That's why they left.

That being said, I think they're in if the Big 12 expands

I don't mind...as long as it works out. If we're left out, the stealth approach will be blamed and blamed and blamed for the next who-knows years

How are people not sold on Houston? If Texas and Texas Tech publicly made statements stating USF deserved to be a part of Big 12 expansion we'd all be mentally popping corks right now. 

Houston is in. I'd be shocked if they weren't. The USF factor is likely team 13 or 14. 

8 minutes ago, lotsofbull99 said:

If we're left out, CFB will be dead to me.

This is such a ******** attitude. 

Pete Gillen! 2009!

2 hours ago, JTrue said:

Here's two examples of why markets are by far the most important factor:

1. Rutgers

2. Boise State

Different circumstances. They had a network AND they own 49% of it. The Big 12 doesn't have a network, and aren't looking to renegotiate their TV deal...that's why they're endorsing a school within their footprint

10 minutes ago, usfgrad84 said:

My guess is fans outside of the conference or state really have no clue yet about USF's rise and UCF's debacle. 

If we start rolling throughout the season like we did last year we will be the sexy choice. Unless you are a big college football fan most people have zero clue about any school outside of their own conference. Unless they follow closely, the majority don't even know much about any team besides their own. 

The problem is, the decision will likely be made before kickoff. 

I don't think either Florida team makes the cut though

I think the issue in all this is the media over values the idea of markets.

Say the Big 12 decides to start a network...is there enough demand in Tampa, Orlando, Cincy, Or wherever to push providers to include it on the regular platforms and not on some premium add-on?

Most of the teams they're playing with are far from the most popular teams in their market. In fact in our market, we're probably third. Same goes for Orlando, Houston. 

Part of me still believes that the Big 12 might be angling for two current G5 schools for the time being and then angle towards stealing a couple Pac12 schools to shore everything up in the future.

I don't think either Florida school is near "slam dunk" status...in fact if I were a betting man, I would put money on Florida being on the outside whenever they decide expansion.

The fact that two Texas schools have backed Houston suggests that this is about potential strength of programs. I think they know who they're taking. 

It will be 2 for now. Houston and Cincy. That's my bet.

All speculation, but with an assistant, and brother of head coach quitting and USF not denying (which NCAA programs commonly do) there is smoke.

it could just be minimal for all we know.

Regardless, couldn't have come at a worse time

52 minutes ago, The Sheriff said:

I can't stress how important the month of September will be for our football program. If we slay FSU at home, the world of college football will be watching if the Big 12 hasn't finalized their decision.

They'll have their decision by then if they don't already. If they want schools for 2017, they're moving fast

If they take 2 we're not in, 4 we are likely in.

8 hours ago, GaUSFBull said:

Clearly you never considered that perhaps those listed on the watch lists might consider it an honor to be named.  And 300 people on them?  Hyperbole much?  Here's the 2016 list.  There's 45 names on there.  45 players out of more than 120 teams in FBS.  It's literally nothing like the Who's Who ****.  

 

Tight ends alone. There aren't too many teams even using them anymore.

I think the kid will be great, but Elkanah Dillon barely had 200 yard receiving.

Watch lists. There is a reason why the Heisman doesn't put one out, and why the smaller awards have about 300 people on them. Because schools make ridiculous graphics and pimp it like it means something to be on a watch list.

Its worse than the Who's Who **** 

Rest in Peace

I didn't recognize him without his hand on the side of a players face. 

The next two years (17-18) are brutal out of conference, but it picks back up in 18.

45 minutes ago, mark_my_words said:

Fair enough but why would Memphis be talking up their $500 million investment and the Fed Ex deal if they were in a good position?  In my opinion, to a certain extent, the schools doing that are in weaker positions (or perceive they are).  

If you follow that logic to the other end of the spectrum, the teams that are in a better position may not feel it is as necessary to make a lot of noise. We know there are an array of schools that are attempting to get into the Big 12.  I just think their behaviors may be revealing.

 

All conversations pulled from a public records request to WVU's president. 

I I don't think anyone has gone public.