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On 11/17/2018 at 5:08 PM, USFBulls727 said:

King at OC seems a popular thought on this board, but he has zero experience at that position that I know of. Seems kind of risky.

Take a deeper look at Gilbert's background. He went from a high school OC to an FCS OC at Eastern Illinois  under Dino Babers. Dino Babers worked as a positions coach for Art Briles and had an extensive background coaching on the offensive side of the ball. Sterlin was not calling the plays: it's no different than what Willie Taggart does. So Sterlin being the spark for Eastern Illinois is questionable at best.

Then Sterlin goes to Bowling Green, same arrangement as Eastern Illinois with Babers as the HC. 

Sterlin's next stop is Tulsa with recently hired Phillip Montgomery.  Montgomery was the OC for Baylor working directly with Art Briles.  

Next stop for Sterlin was Texas followed by USF. 

In my opinion he was originally given the position to support recruiting and since that time it has been a friendly hire since with the majority of the offensive play calling  direction coming from the head coach. At Texas and at USF he has shown a lack of progression.

Keep in mind the 2 point conversion at UCF last year was a Taggert play that Flowers and Johnson decided. 

If I am Strong get ready to turn the page.

Note:At best former Art Briles assistants  as HCs have a touch over 50% winning percentage. The offense truly takes a mobile QB that can really throw the ball.  

whether USF wins or loses there is a discount at Wendy's  Not sure how it works but I heard the commercial on gousfbulls.com

This is going to be a good team to watch this year.  So far it seems the formula for a good USF basketball team is a player named Collins and a coach from the Izzo tree.

1 hour ago, bullsfan27 said:

Quotable
Head coach Charlie Strong's thoughts on Saturday's second half:
"You had the ball and three opportunities in the third quarter on the plus side and we got nothing out of it. We've got to be able to score points there. We had two turnovers and then we gave the ball up on downs. You can't let that happen, especially when you're on the road."
 

https://gousfbulls.com/news/2018/11/17/football-bulls-fall-at-temple-despite-strong-defensive-effort.aspx

The "You" in this quote is ambiguous. I believe "You" is Sterling Gilbert. Once I inserted Sterlin's name it made sense.

I think Barnett's talent is being lost in this offense. I am amazing by the number of times they had him keep the ball on the read option. He should only run when plays break down or on unique play calls.

Strong has mentioned multiple times that Cronkrite is an all around back. If so why does he only have 5 catches on the year and why has Ford been getting the nod over Cronkrite?  Good coaches find ways to get their best players the ball. 

 In 2014 TCU head coach Gary Paterson, who is known as a defensive-minded coach, accepted the change to the game and the need to match up better with other Big 12 teams hired Sonny Cumbie.   In 2014 the team when 12-1 compared to a 4-6 record the prior year.

Sonny Cumbie implemented a spread air raid system.  I am not advocating one system over the other but it is worth stating that the modern era of football requires the need for more wide open aggressive offenses.

Heck, even Nick Saban opened up the Alabama offense.

So its either there is a lack of talent at USF or there is a bad fit with this style of offense.  Also, only a hand full of coaches found success with the veer and shoot.  In my opinion only one has been successful who's last name is not Briles and that is Dino Babers. 

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/6/29/17518110/what-will-2018-hold-for-the-veer-and-shoot-houston-tulsa-usf-briles-montgomery-gilbert-babers

I thought this was a throw back thread about firing Greg Gregory

https://gousfbulls.com/staff.aspx?staff=124

8 hours ago, El_Toro_86 said:

Maryland may be a better landing spot for Strong.  May not be much interest in that dumpster fire 

I think Geoff Collins gets the Maryland job.

How about Dan Werner and move Shaun King back to QB coach.  Hire a new RB coach and possibly a OL coach.

4 hours ago, SpeedyBull said:

There is more wrong with this season than just the coaching staff. That said I think Strong is a good coach and can win. We knew this year was going to be a step back with losing some key players. We were hopeful some talent would mature faster. Injuries and a beat up team aren't helping.

That said I think there is pressure to either replace the OC or change offensive Scheme. I think the fans, and NCAA football in general enjoys the shootout style games and we need a fast high scoring offense to do so. We need to aggressively pursue recruits and transfers to fix our linemen issues, which also can be fixed with the weight room and more time. 

I think this staff can succeed but is too stubborn to get creative, that may be our OC's downfall  especially after we finish the season without winning any more games.  Charlie will have to choose very carefully as if next year there isn't improvement it may be his turn. 

After his second season, Willie Taggart changed his offensive scheme to the GCO Let's hope Strong picks up from lessons learned. I agree there is an under utilization of talent and creativity in this offensive scheme.  

This football season has all the intricacies of a Harvard Business Review Case Study

Let me layout a few key points.

1. UCF is winning

2. USF football's season is in a death spiral, that brings back the memories of the Leavitt days with fear of going back to the Holtz error. (Error is not a typo for era).

3. More money is needed for an indoor practice facility and you are in the midst of soliciting donations 

4. A new president will be named by Spring of 2019. So it is important to make sure as an AD all your ducks are in a row

5. With money needed for an indoor practice facility, is the really money available to part ways with a high profile bargain priced head coach

6. Reallignment is coming and USF football was a dumpster fire at the time. That sure can't happen again.

7. Finally got more butts in seats this year and maintaining momentum in a metro city is tough. Ask the University of Miami.

8. All the other sports  teams are on the uptick. But the cash cow is sucking wind at the moment

9. Did I mention UCF is winning

If you were AD MK what would you do?  #WWMKD

Fantastic. There are people who have no idea who is Evan Kraky 

I expect loses for the rest of the season. This game, Cincinnati, proved the staff has no ambitions to be creative on offense to help a struggling defense.  If they don't care why should I care? 

Be specific there are portions of the offensive staff that need to go. In year 2 Willie Targart had enough wisdom to adjust his desired offense to create Gulf Coast Offense which was successful. I hope Strong does the same. This offense is not working. 

I can give a pass on the defense since it is so young.  But offense there is no excuse it's not execution it's just a bad fit.

This offense does not put athletes in space.  It's the halfback dive the streak down the side line and a hitch. I think that's everything.

I want an OC with a playbook next year please.

I was hoping the purpose of this thread was to discuss that Sterlin Gilbert has installed some new plays that complimented the skill level of the players on the team.

What is a shocking is the movement of personnel so late in the season? Particularly Reaves to LB seems like the right move. But why so late considering there was little to no depth at LB at the start of the season.  

The defensive line just got shored up with Boyce finally playing. The LB play as expected prior to the season is a major problem. Just think a converted Safety was a starting LB. The depth a LB is thin since they had no other choice than to cover Reaves to a MLB. The DBs are young and are being out played. The is no level of coaching to make up for experience.

Offensively there is something missing. I think it is creativity. Team's have now stacked the box and allowed the 5 yard hitch on the opposite side of the field. 

15 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

Safety is also a more cerebral position, so you also put your smartest DBs in that position as well.  Either way, Putting Jaymon Thomas may have been a desperate move, but its not a boneheaded move as he is clearly one of our better defensive players on the team. 

Rod Woodson is another example of a corner turned safety. With that said I believe the reason why they kept Thomas on the field is because of his experience. I assume they knew the risk but hoped for better results. They eventually benched him and put in Roberts I believe who is a freshman.

10 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Get this logic out of here! Don’t you know we are dealing with the “I want gratification now” generation on this board? 

I was sleep deprived after travelling to Houston and going out with the kid for Halloween. I was out of my mind writing this post. 

It's worth questioning why so many players have been injured this year.  In my years I have never seen so many injuries.

How many times can you turn the ball over 3 times, miss a FG inside 40 yards, allow the opponent to rush for over 300 yards and end up with a win?

Also..

During the game last night the a announcers kept stating how many freshmen UConn was playing this year. USF is playing quite a few true and redshirt freshmen and USF is 7-0. 

USF

38 - 17

Cronkrite

Wilcox

435