belgianbull

I would give Kelly 2 more years to see if he can get it turned around. Me not liking the new hire doesn't mean that he can't be successful here. I have been wrong before. Thought Skip Holtz at the time was a good hire; and that didn't work out so well.  Now my expectations in two years is at least a bowl game in football, have the coaching situation sorted out for basketball, and break ground on the new OCS. 

We can't really afford 2 more years of not having a winning season; especially in a weaker conference. I expect more conference realignment, and right now programs like Memphis and others are probably ahead of us. New coaches come in all the time and turn programs around in less time. That's why I am not a fan of the new hire since he has no HC experience and comes with training wheels.

1 minute ago, belgianbull said:

He still went 31-6 at Coastal Carolina; got them ranked and got them some national recognition. Five years ago I had never even heard of Coastal Carolina; now everyone knows about them. Would not have minded at all if USF had hired him; especially compared to what we got.

correction; that's 31-6 in last 3 years

He still went 31-6 at Coastal Carolina; got them ranked and got them some national recognition. Five years ago I had never even heard of Coastal Carolina; now everyone knows about them. Would not have minded at all if USF had hired him; especially compared to what we got.

Welcome Coach Golesh. I hope he does well here. 

Think he is a risky pick by Kelly since he comes with zero head coaching experience; training wheels, and a verry steep learning curve. Also brings zero excitement, and also big question mark regarding whether he can recruit. So in my opinion this is not a good hire.

Would have preferred some established HC with recent success as a manager. If this doesn't work out lets say 2 years from now; I will have zero confidence left in Kelly.

Having said that I hope I am wrong and that his hire works out.

Just woke up, and checked this board hoping for an update. Am I still sleeping and am I having a nightmare? This route doesn't make any sense. We needed someone with head coaching experience. We cant afford another coach with training wheels who will undoubtedly hit a learning curve. We needed someone who could be successful right away. Mullen, the Troy coach, the Toledo coach,... would have been better choices. Verry dissapointed!

Having said that I hope I am wrong and hope that he is successful here, but I doubt it. I have zero confidence right now in Kelly

1 minute ago, michibull said:

Idk why, but I have always liked Memphis, East Carolina, Tulane, Navy and SMU (USF of course, haha) thought they were solid schools with growth potential. Rice, UAB and UTSA I’m actually in favor of them joining for the same reasons. Everybody else is dead weight to me. 

Kind of sucks that over the next few years we will be competing against these schools for future conference realignment. Another reason that this coaching hire is so important.

Coastal Carolina lost 26-45 to Troy today. 

So what's the latest on our OCS? Earlier in the year I saw lots of articles regarding it, but it has been crickets of late. Is that still  90-100 percent happening?

8 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said:

I was not really hyped up on Sanders to begin with. Now if he was a USF guy then maybe. Plus the rumors of having to give up full control was a major turn off for me. Homeboy has yet to face tough competition so I was not sold on another hype coach without top 25 wins or bowl wins.

What excited me the most about Deion Sanders would have been his recruitment power. Also the excitement and national attention it would have brought to to the program. I think it would have been fun, and that he would have been successful here.

Yes, what I am seeing on television right now makes me doubt whether he is the right guy, but even if Coastal loses today he will still be 31  and 6 in his last 37 games. But yes the Coastal defense looks awful. still think he is not a bad option compared to others that have been mentioned.

12 minutes ago, olafberserker said:

Of course it is possible, but I think many on here (possibly you included) are acting like MK's job is only to hire football coaches.  There is a ton that he has done right and our program is much better off than it was when he got here.  Now we need to win now (and needed to win more the past 3 years obviously) but the idea that he has been completely inept at his job is absurd.  We also don't know anymore that he was "outplayed" than we know that he wasn't.   if the next coach wins games, then the search was a success regardless

Our basketball team and football team are the worst it has ever been; we were left behind in conference realignment; a lot of silence lately regarding the OCS. If Kelly fails to get a good coach; I don't know by what metric that he is doing well right now. I will never understand the across the board contract extensions last year.

Would be a disappointing hire compared to Chadwell. 

This reminds me a little to 2014; when we struck out on bigger names for a new basketball coach and ended up settling on coach Antigua.

 Still don't know though and have to wait and see how it all transpires. Still hoping that we can at least get Chadwell

Could it be Sumrall from Troy? He is another one coaching today. I hope not. One good year is not enough to convince me he is the guy for the job. Chadwell has done it over multiple years at Coastal. 

"On December 13, 2018, Diaz was named the 28th head football coach at Temple University, replacing Geoff Collins, who left to become the head coach at Georgia Tech. However, he left the team just two weeks later to return to Miami and was named head football coach on December 30, 2018." Source Wikipedia

This alone makes it enough for me not to want Diaz. in addition he is a rethread and was at best average as a HC at Miami. So no for me

What he did to Temple was not classy. I would hardly call a 21-15 record at Miami successful. Maybe average at best. We need better then average to turn this USF program around!

Manny Diaz would be a bad hire. His record at Miami was 21-15; lost 2 bowl games; in a weak ACC.  Its harder to be successful at USF compared to Miami.

this coaching hire needs to be a homerun ; so I don't agree with the sentiment of relax; we will get someone better then coach Scott. Almost any coach in the country would qualify as better then Scott. We need someone who can make us relevant again in quick time, and eventually get us into a better conference.

If its someone coaching this weekend who could it be besides Chadwell? Any other ones to look out for?

I picked the field. Entertaining but disappointing especially after for a moment earlier in the week I thought it really could have been Deion. I hate twitter. Still I hope its a coach with recent success ( Chadwell) over someone who was average at a big school ( Diaz, Mullen)

Still think it has to be a coach that is coaching this weekend; otherwise I think it would have been announced, especially considering recruiting  and the transfer portal. Only reason I still have a glimmer of hope for Deion Sanders, and if not; at least Chadwell.

2 minutes ago, bulloni said:

That was Napier that almost lost to us. Mullen was up 35-3 at halftime with Emory Jones..

Oops my bad. Still hoping for Deion or Chadwell over Mullen though

Are we talking about the same Dan Mullen that just went 5-6 at Florida, and almost lost against the worst USF team we have ever had? Need someone with winning momentum!

A lot in the media about Chadwell possibly going to Liberty. If he was our second choice behind Deion Sanders; and we don't get him; that would be pretty embarrassing for Kelly. Unless Deion comes to USF; which I think to be unlikely.