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27 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Colorado isn't P5?

Did I say that? 
 

With the talent that Deion was able to bring into CO, if he had chosen USF, we might have gone undefeated this year. Would have made his stock even higher for an inevitable P5 gig.

Speaking of Michigan, I don’t watch any football outside of USF, but Joel Klatt shared a story about what happened after Michigan’s guard went down with the leg injury that’s worth a listen to. First :05 ish minutes of video. 

Just now, Triple B said:

Bigger crowds is certainly a tangible benefit for the school, more $, but how is bigger crowds a tangible benefit for a fan? Hell, the tangible effects on the fan of moving to a P5 is probably negative with higher ticket prices ....

Bigger crowds (and quality of opponent) is the difference between watching USF vs WVU in 2007 and watching USF vs Temple in 2023. If you know, you know (as I’m guessing you do)…it’s tangible. 

Fair with ticket prices but I’d donate an organ right about now for a rerun of the glory years.

8 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

Guess how he got the job? It wasn't because Michigan beat OSU...

He got the job because he knew someone, like most executives. Not because Michigan is 1 of 70+ schools with an AAU. 

Just now, Triple B said:

Seems like that definition supports me more than you .... tangible=perceptible by touch. Your benefit is more feeling/enjoyment than anything else and that's not perceptible by touch.

Refer to highlight: clear and definitive; real. 
 

Playing quality opponents with bigger crowds is certainly real/tangible. 

15 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

Lol, but your college athletics conference will get you that raise. Go tell MIT & all the Ivy League schools quick.

Actually…who you know and who likes you is the most likely way to move up in most business. Those relationship are built on things that are normally not work related…like sports. For example, I know the head of investment banking at a local financial firm loves Michigan. I know this because he mentions Michigan football in meetings any chance he gets. Guess what he’s never mentioned…Michigan’s AAU. Why? Because no one outside of a few academic departments benefiting from research grants actually cares.

4 minutes ago, Triple B said:

So what's the actual personal tangible benefit you would glean from USF going P5?

Essentially enjoyment. A better Saturday experience and the ability to participate in water cooler talk again. 

In the event you are focused on word choice, I’m using tangible as defined in yellow. 

32 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

Most of us including you didn’t really even know what AAU was and now you guys would rather have this than multiple NY6 bowls and a P5 conference?  Absolutely outrageous mind boggling post, this helps some of us rationalize our years of shat performance, we all do what we can to cope I guess.

I’ve yet to see anyone personally identify an actual tangible benefit from it. Wikipedia says the biggest benefit is “prestige” lol. Outside of that it looks like AAU schools get more research grants. Seems extremely narrowly focused compared to the benefit to the school and all alums from having a top tier athletic program.

PS I’m still waiting for my Fortune 500 employer to send me my congratulations and pay raise…unbelievably rude of them.

1 minute ago, Brad said:

Run ‘em out.  

Yeah, likely default position. Guessing writing was on the wall for the 3 that announced but interesting that the two (excluding GB since he never played) did so before the bowl game. Would think you’d wait until after

1 minute ago, Triple B said:

Up to the discretion of the school, I think, once they announce ...

Yeah might depend on how the “break up” went. If it’s mutual/on good terms, perhaps they can. Thx, just curious.

Do these portal players still suit up/play in the bowl game? Guessing so since you can rescind the portal request?

9 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

I construed the original comment more as sarcasm.

I think you try to play on the highest level you can. Being in the AAC is worlds better than being in Division 2, or even conference USA or Sun Belt. Win the AAC and you might even have a shot at the playoffs.

It was sarcasm but not everyone is as sharp as you.

8 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

We’re talking about a single bowl game. But you go ahead with your ridiculous posts.

You are welcome to keep scrolling, I don’t recall asking you to respond. 

2 hours ago, SilverBull said:

Give me a win over a "no name" team over a beat down by a "vaguely recall name" team any day.  

Besides, I don't mind being a "no name," I just don't want to continue to be called "UCF" everywhere.

May be we should move down to D2 football then if winning, regardless of against who, is all that matters. Saves $300M.

33 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

Just curious. Are you one that feels the AAC is a conference of no names?

For the most part yes…majority of non P4 schools would fall under my definition of no names. 

Yeah, that’s where we differ. I am not interested in padding stats with a win over a no name team. Feels too participation trophy-ish for me. Put these extra practices to use and play a legitimate game that people (at large - not just die hards) will want to tune into. USF needs to make a name for itself again. No risk, no reward. 

41 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Opposite for me. Hawaii would be perfect. Nice reward for the season .... and for having to play the assclowns again.

That’s where I’ll flip my POV and say it is a meaningless game if held in a location only a couple of hundred fans will travel to. That’s essentially a scrimmage and doesn’t move the dial for USFs brand (especially if paired against some of these no name teams I’m seeing floated). 

9 minutes ago, Triple B said:

That could very well be true ......... just make it an out of state bowl.

Good with that…just can’t be Hawaii…somewhere folks can reasonably travel to.

3 hours ago, jjlovecub said:

I think you’re putting a bit too much weight on a bowl game against these two teams. He would not have the same meaning that people think it will. IMHO

Perhaps, but I’d venture to say that outside of the playoffs games, USF v UCF would have one of, if not the, largest crowd/tv audience of the bowl games. 

14 minutes ago, Brad said:

That ain’t all you’ve heard.  Think “defense” and let me know if anything comes back to you.  

It’s a fun weekend. It’s not a game that counts.

The school to the East made theirs count and are still profiting off of it.

USF doesn’t have the luxury of playing games for fun. A strong showing, or dare I even say a win, by USF in a USF/UCF matchup does far more for the program (fan base and recruiting) than playing in a game across the country in an irrelevant matchup that no more than a couple of hundred USF fans will actually be there in-person to see. 6-6 isn’t Hawaii celebration time, back to work…”coffee is for closers”

1 hour ago, Bryson W said:

Our defense will get torched... offense would have to put up 40+ to win...

Perhaps but iron sharpens iron. It was a 1 score game last year and all I’ve heard about is how much improved we are this year vs last. Let’s put that to the test. 

4 minutes ago, John Lewis said:

Yes, section 108.

I really thought there were more people there than that in 2022.

@belgianbull, yes, we are much better now and there is much more excitement surrounding the program. My concern is that there is a good portion of our fan base, myself included, that would like to see the team go away for the bowl game and play somewhere we haven't played before.

I’d envision an Alabama type of crowd if a USF/UCF matchup were to happen and such a raucous environment that you wouldn’t know it was a semi-meaningless bowl game. 
 

If the players prefer traveling out-of-state then cool, go for it. The above is my ideal scenario as a fan (which I also think is good for increasing interest in the program as well).

3 minutes ago, John Lewis said:

Did you take that pic from my seats?

What was the 2022 game vs. UCF attendance? I'd have a difficult time thinking it would be much larger than that.

 

Possibly…108?

Announced 32k which actually sounds close to actual based on my recollection…

Pic from the sites archive (visiting side)

36 minutes ago, John Lewis said:

You're assuming that 65,000 people want to see USF - UCF in the Gasparilla Bowl?

If we are using USFs announced crowds then sure. 
 

After all, Temple was 30k, right?