ArmyBull

19 minutes ago, Triple B said:

It's a drawback but not a deal killer reading that whole paragraph ...

but Tampa is a strong area for recruiting,

 

Someone inform CJS that he should consider building a recruiting wall around Tampa.  

12 minutes ago, Triple B said:

It's a drawback but not a deal killer reading that whole paragraph ...

South Florida: USF has Tier 1 job potential, especially when it builds an on-campus football facility that will feature an indoor practice facility. The lack of an on-campus stadium is a drawback, but Tampa is a strong area for recruiting, and the team won consistently under Jim Leavitt and had 21 combined wins in 2016 and 2017.

 

Man, thought for sure that would push you 100% into the OCS camp. 

3 hours ago, smazza said:the stadium issue has nothing to do with usf's struggles on the field

No, but the article is about job appeal/perception.  Perception becomes reality.  ESPN think less of us because we do not have an OCS.  Perception is powerful and is listed as a “drawback”. 
 

Recruits read these articles, ADs read these articles.  Having the lack of an OCS listed as a drawback is not great. 

Winning 4 games will be impressive.  Obtaining bowl eligibility will be a miracle.  But for the BCU and maybe Tulsa game, every team we face will probably feel absolutely defeated if they lose to us.  Want to see solid QB play and an identity on offense.      

This is from an ESPN+ article, so I will not post the whole thing.  At least we made the list, how goes the OCS?  I'll hang up and listen.

http://insider.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/29268130/college-football-coaching-job-tiers-boise-state-houston-ucf-most-attractive-group-5

Tier 2 jobs: Solid footing with finances, facilities and support; access to good regional recruiting areas; competes often for league championships, regularly makes bowls and occasionally challenges for the New Year's Six; some history of wins against the Power 5 (recent or long term); solid local or regional fan base.

South Florida: USF has Tier 1 job potential, especially when it builds an on-campus football facility that will feature an indoor practice facility. The lack of an on-campus stadium is a drawback, but Tampa is a strong area for recruiting, and the team won consistently under Jim Leavitt and had 21 combined wins in 2016 and 2017.

3 hours ago, Triple B said:

I think it's the ocs ....

I knew I would wear you down eventually.  

3 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

I bet you think the Astros are a stand up organization too. 

I will take over reactions for $1000, Alex.  

22 hours ago, bullsfan1983 said:

Maybe we should cut a few corners. 

This, tired of the excuses as to why Oviedo CC is having the success they are having and we are not.  

On 2/13/2020 at 1:40 PM, Gismo said:

UCF does seems to have an institutional culture of cutting corners.

embezzling money, player death settlement, stadium problems.

It seems there is a new scandal every other year.

In other words, the are acting like a P5 team?  

The Asiantii Woulard saga cured me of transfer hype. 

But is he going to build a wall around Tampa?

10 hours ago, Bull Daly said:

Man those were the days when we actually had strong actual attendance at RJS.  

I always thought it was a shame that the poor bull had to run so far to the stadium.  An OCS would fix this.  

1 minute ago, puc86 said:

Because his overall record was abysmal and he holds the record for having the worst season in UsF history and being the only one to lose to a KB level team. He has no wins of note and although he had a single good season there didn’t appear to be a plan in place after Q but I’m sure it will look a lot more like his only good year of coaching than every other year he has had in a decade, because feelings.

Mic drop

We are now CWT’s best option.  It is embarrassing, who else would take him at this point?  This is the Strong blueprint all over again.  I have to believe Kelly knows better.   

1 minute ago, SpeedBull said:

I’m frankly pretty shocked at the level of support for Willie on here. No freaking way do I want him back. It would be a terrible, terrible decision.

Anyone else being considered with his resume and it would be laughable, but hey, it’s CWT, so it’s all good... SMH. 

Resume:

10 years of head coaching experience.

0-1 in bowl games. (That’s right, present for 1 bowl game in 10 years and lost it).

Overall record of 56-62.

One season of 9 wins or more.

Zero conference championships won.

Zero conference championships played for.

.... but yet, some are acting like CWT was our savior.  I just don’t get it.  We can do better.

3 hours ago, usf97 said:

Is there a 3rd option?

X  - I like Jim Leavitt. We should build him a statue or honor him at a game like Maryland did for Ralph Friedgen. Move forward. 

This x1000, people act like you must either be for him coming back or you hate his guts and always have.  Build the statue and look to the future. 

6 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Comments from Kelly:

thanked CCS for contribution

MK visited at 2:00 to fire him

meet with other staff after that about recruiting 

meet with players after to give the news to them ...told them to focus grades and workouts

all of this was done in 1.5 hours

moving forward: search started last night

will not use search firm

was on the phone last night

no public comments until when they announce a new coach.

he is very energized about the program moving forward...the best yet to come 

ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS:

Not going to pin in a time line 

buyout is considerable. Not paid out in a lump sum

financially the buyout will not hurt in getting a new coach. Will be in top half of salary in AAC

Will be open minded to different levels of experience. Need someone who wants to make their mark here.

Strong took the news well

came to the decision to fire Strong on Saturday 

Continuing to make the facilities better. Was a factor in strong’s lack of success but not the only factor. 
 

USF athletics is at a critical juncture. Have to realize the AAC plays big boy football. Must find ways to win the conference and move beyond

people need to be open minded about different coaches he will interview 

MK had consultation with the USF Pres and board before firing

he has received many calls for the position

Anticipates some recruits will stay and some will leave

next coach has to have good PR skills and comfortable in getting out into the community to sell the program.

existing coaching staff is on contract now and will recruit but their long term future is up to the new coach.

Players understood the professional aspect of the situation when MK talked to them

MK is open to talking to former players and expects to talk to them in the coming days. But the ultimate decision is his.

MK has a short list right now. Using his contacts from the past.

hoped that the team would push forward after being 4-4.

 

This was excellent.  Thanks for the efforts. 

Just now, Triple B said:

Discussion on a message board pertaining to someone being several games away from being fired is hopefully not the evidence you were referring to. CWT was definitely on the hot seat going into the season but there's nothing that supports him not being given the whole season by Harlan to continue progress.

By the way, an OCS would increase attendance.   

2 minutes ago, Triple B said:

I actually agree with that but when you started talking about "a whole lot of evidence at the time" supporting the 2 games away from firing scenario, it changed the narrative .......

Should I have said 3 games?  C'mon man, straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel here.  I am sure there is a thread, or 7, from 2015 that this was discussed in great detail.  

3 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

You honestly don't think he was close to getting fired back then? I liked him when he was here, but come on we all know about the famous dinner.

Dude, leave him and Trip alone, they remember things differently.  

Just now, GaUSFBull said:

Lol, that's really not how it works at all, but it's cute you think that way.

Is that just your opinion?  I am unsure now.  

Just now, GaUSFBull said:

As long as you qualify your position as an opinion, in contrast to your earlier posts, I'm fine with it.

It is a message board, unless people "qualify" a statement with sources, it is an opinion, that's how it works.  

3 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said:

Lol.  So I’ve got you down as a “willfully ignorant”, good to know for future discussions.

2 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

But he wasn't.  And he obviously survived the hot seat so your equation is completely bogus.

Just admit it, you don't like the guy personally so you are inventing reasons why you don't want him here.

Again, feel free to disagree, call me ignorant, and whatever else makes you feel better.  But yes, my opinion is that he was absolutely close to being fired and that will not change.  You have a different opinion and I am okay with that, you also need to be okay with that.

On a separate note, I am over not taking the next step, we have the talent to win the conference and that should be the expectation every year.  If a coach can't get that done in three years, time to move on.  Again, my opinion, so relax fellas, it will be alright.    

1 minute ago, Ghostbuster said:

What makes me feel better is that you were unable to respond to my points because they were indisputable.  So of course that’s the best response you can muster.

Well good, like I said, I am glad you feel better.