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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    7 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said:

    With the understanding that two of those schools are already significantly ahead of us. We better start winning games, have fans attend, and develop a 3/5 year strategic plan for football/Athletics growth (with a stadium blueprint). There is nothing historically to convince me any of these things will happen in the timeline needed. Hope I am wrong. 

    This - even while it may be the smallest sliver of hope for expansion in the coming years, there is no evidence that we will be in a different position than we are right now.  We are trending sideways(because we are already at the bottom) Football wise this season is already looking like another disaster.  I am sure we will learn more when conference play starts.  The majority of the AAC is also a disaster so maybe we will rise to the top of the disaster heap. 
     

    I get triggered about stadium talk. For years I have been making that point and the common retorts have always been something along the lines of that our fans expect a pro stadium atmosphere (which is a big problem for a team that needs to develop a college football culture) and the stadium must be xxx million because we can’t build something less expensive.  We need a 35000 seat stadium that can expand to 50000 if need be.  Build it out aluminum, hemp, plastic, whatever.  Just get it on campus so everyone can actually go to USF for the games.  

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    Build a stadium on campus

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    10 hours ago, puc86 said:

    We had successes and we said things about them and then most of our fans laughed at them, said we were ridiculous and underserving as we embraced our self loathing. They had successes and they bought into them and no matter who laughed at them and made fun of them they were not deterred. If you believe something long enough and are steadfast in your conviction as you say it loud enough eventually people stop laughing and just go ahead and believe it too. But hey at least we were right and we weren’t the big four and we couldn’t sustain success or find our way back to it, we really showed them.

    This well placed logic did not work for me when I wanted Alyssa Milano to be my wife in the late 1990s

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    7 hours ago, Cubanbull said:

    By the way there was a post on the AAC board that the Big12 was looking at adding 8 to go to 16 but passed on that with UT and OU still on board. So with their new tv contract starting in 2025 there might be another opening.

    USF needs to push hard in finishing their athletic projects and start winning  again

    And they need to be vocal about, make football a priority, tell the world about our plans, have a freaking vision that is football focused.  Football has been, is, and will continue to be the driver.  If the admin can't grasp that, then keep pushing on to be the Harvard of the south.  Make a financial investment into football's future and stop waiting for donors to step up.... build it and they will come.  It baffles me that the admin could not see this years ago.  When the roof was coming off the "new sombrero," that was the time to capitalize, and we did squat.  Anyway, maybe this will be the time the admin decides to wake up, and get a freaking loan, pan handle on the streets, hire of bunch of day traders, put up a craig's list ad for some bitcoin hackers...... just DO SOMETHING!  

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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    2 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

    They where at the bottom of the list anyways lol 

    FAU/FIU are a lock, my bet is FAU.  App State is a no brainer.  Coastal....  don't know, very recent success which would be the only reason to add them.  Perhaps Boise would come if the deal was sweet enough, but doubt it.  La Tech, probably.  Marshall, North Texas, UAB, plenty of options to bring in quality programs.  

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    3 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

    I don't care what UCF does. As long as a G6 school has a way into the playoffs then we are good. Focus on ourselves and let the rest take care of itself. The Big 12 sucked before expansion and will suck after. 

    This, hopefully the CFP changes keep trending toward playoff expansion.  We still have a future.  BUT, we have to make football a priority.  The teams left, Memphis, Navy, SMU, plus whoever they bring in are not exactly teams we have dominated.  The newbies plus those listed above are already better programs than we are. 

    It is not like we just missed the cut for Big 12 consideration.  

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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    10 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

    Honestly, independent seems like a good option. We could probably get good teams to come down here bc of recruiting, people of Tampa would show up for teams they know and we wouldn't be strapped down by a conference tv contract.

    If we are going to be a stepping stone lets embrace it.

    So we are further relegated to "buy games" to survive?  Further, no chance to be one of the 6 best conference champions (assuming the CFP continues to trend that way).

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    We have been at this for years.  For those wondering the how, why, and what reasons of ucf being all over the expansion news and not us... you simply have not been paying attention or you are being intentionally dense.  Number one, they have been winning (and winning when it matters) and we have not.  Number two, they have built facilities and we have not (not even going to go into the cultural and fan interaction benefits that an OCS would have done for us the past decade).  Number three, look at the donor base (embarrassing).  Number four, the coaching hires were just bad luck, but while we were firing coaches, ucf's coaches were leaving for better jobs.  Number four, attendance, again embarrassing and the reasons don't matter, because it is what it is and it has been what it is for a long time.  Number five, our administration could never produce the vision that was happening to the East and in all honesty, I blame them the most.  Judy, Woolard, Harlan, just bad decision after bad decision.  

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    8 minutes ago, puc86 said:

    If we have an option to hitch our wagon to the ACC or even the Big 6 I am all for that but the AAC isn’t quite those options now is it? Now imagine the AAC even dropping further into the unthinkable abyss that it already has engulfed us in, independence is favorable to that because we know people had a thirst for us originally, we know that there was a thirst in CUSA, we know it was insatiable in the Beast and we also know that Qflowers could win every game in the AAC and no one would care. This experiment has more than failed and should it actually get worse from a conference perspective I do not see how anyone could possibly think staying the course would be the actual best action. If an iceberg hits even hits the Titanic the best move is to get off the ship, the AAC isn’t even a Jon boat and if it gets hit by an iceberg we need to get off by any means necessary.

    Bologna!! UC, Memphis, ucf, and Houston to a degree, have done just fine and have elevated their brands in the AAC.  We, due to poor management on several levels, have wasted our years and our brand has suffered.  Q was on the cusp of taking us to the AAC championship game in 2017... who knows what would have happened had we won.  The AAC is not our problem, we are our problem.    

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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    2 minutes ago, puc86 said:

    I must be confused how many NY6 games has the AAC garnered us while bleeding us of attendance, fans relevancy or even interesting games that even get discussed around town? We could beat every AAC team every single year and no one would care because in the end you lose by playing these teams.
     

    BYU athletics brought in $72 million and they spent $50 million, we should be so lucky as to reverse fates with them as we spent more than that while bringing in less. Our home games against AAC teams are negative equity and with no carrying costs of a stadium we are free to negotiate 2-1s with reckless abandonment getting paid more for the road trips while bringing in more attendance and fans by playing teams at home people actually want to see.
     

    If you like watching us in the AAC than congratulations you are part of ~20k fans and dropping that feel the same way but the market here has spoken and the AAC is not something anyone here has any interest in buying. We need to find something that people actually want to buy instead of always having to chasten them on why they should buy something they have no interest in.

    We can agree....  you want us to become Uconn, constant buy games and home games against FCS opponents.  The BYU comments were meant to display the independents inability to make anything meaningful out of the post season with the current and proposed formats.  Even Notre Dame knows this and hitched their wagon to the ACC.   

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    1 minute ago, puc86 said:

    All ideas are impossible and mocked until someone is brave enough to show it’s possible, we have seen a decade’s worth of what impact the AAC has on our program and fanbase and I doubt staying the course gets us much more than another decade of it. The wages of the AAC is death, even if it’s a slow boil.

    How is independence working out for BYU?  They can't even get to an NY6.  We can see how it would work out for us, take a look at Uconn.    

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