TromBull12

Is  it ok to copy and paste? 

Man I want some more college ball, 16 spots!!!

Love the knowledge you dropped. Most other ethnicities won't have to worry about losing their culture/history because they come here voluntarily."African" Americans were taken from their homes and denied the decency of being treated as human beings. So my correction is to say that I can trace my family back to 1865, but no further than that, because they didn't keep records of property.  Most blacks who were enslaved can as well with the proper finances, but unless you come from the islands or there is a stroke of luck, you have to lose your history prior to our freedom. 

Ignoring other races is too. American history is funny that way. 

Ouch I get downvoted for calling it the hypocrisy of that statement. We can't praise CWT because "We didn't win anything or even play in a title game. Til he does, there are no need for threads like this IMO." We praise Leavitt all the time and all he did was his job. Never won anything or a title... I'm not hating just stating facts as far as I know them.  Why can you praise one but not the other?  Give Taggart time and the wins and accolades will come. And he's done enough with our soon  to be 9-4 season. 

So you can never utter a word of support for the Leavitt years...

I'm glad USF is doing right by him. 

The hate is strong with some of you. You act as if he inherited a championship caliber team or much of a team at all... You can thank him for what he's done so far with the potential for a 9 win season and all. And a great way to thank a under paid coach is to pay him. I man UCif paid an unproven coach who will fail next year  as much. 

I said this in another thread but it also deserves to be said here:

It's not the same situation as it was with Holtz,  it's exactly the opposite. Holtz had a good season with Leavitt's players, not his own. CWT built this team and the majority of them will be in place for the next two years. So the odds of them magically crapping the bed next season are slim. 

Some of us are about to miss out on something good because we got burned in the past. Just because this situation reminds you of your ex, doesn't mean she'll hurt you the same. 

This season started "bad"   because we weren't executing just yet. Watching those games hurt because we could see that, not because we played horribly. Bullspeners hear what they want to hear, so what you heard or suspect is irrelevant. What matters is what you've seen, and that's a winning team. 

The indication is he wants to get paid what he's worth. What did we pay sorry Holtz? What is the UCif coach who 's never been a head coach making?  And you believe you can sit this coach down and say "give me a little more at a discount THEN I'll pay you what you're worth?"  That's ridiculous, we didn't go 6-6, we didn't squeak out wins, we didn't get lucky... We clicked and dominated with a good opportunity to end with a 9-4 record... C'mon man!!! Get the feelings out the way and pay the man. He just wants to feel financially appreciated. 

I'm not his son or his agent I just can recognize a good thing when  see one. 

Who has? Did we wait until Holtz won something to pay him? Did UCF hire this unproven coach at a discount saying we'll pay you when you win??? With the opportunity to go 9-4 this season, he has earned a raise. It's just that simple. Those who can't see that don't want to. It's how you finish, not how you start. 

Who has???

It's not the same situation as it was with Holtz,  it's exactly the opposite. Holtz had a good season with Leavitt's players, not his own. CWT built this team and the majority of them will be in place for the next two years. So the odds of them magically crapping the bed next season are slim. 

Some of us are about to miss out on something good because we got burned in the past. Just because this situation reminds you of your ex, doesn't mean she'll hurt you the same. 

This season started "bad"   because we weren't executing just yet. Watching those games hurt because we could see that, not because we played horribly. Bullspeners hear what they want to hear, so what you heard or suspect is irrelevant. What matters is what you've seen, and that's a winning team. 

The indication is he wants to get paid what he's worth. What did we pay sorry Holtz? What is the UCif coach who 's never been a head coach making?  And you believe you can sit this coach down and say "give me a little more at a discount THEN I'll pay you what you're worth?"  That's ridiculous, we didn't go 6-6, we didn't squeak out wins, we didn't get lucky... We clicked and dominated with a good opportunity to end with a 9-4 record... C'mon man!!! Get the feelings out the way and pay the man. He just wants to feel financially appreciated. 

There's a difference between praise  and understanding. Looking at the body of this season Maryland is an anomaly.And magically once  we started winning it's in spite of CWT not because of him. Ok....

Never directly but I remember quite a few "even my niece seen that we should throw more" type posts. All you would have to do is open up an earlier thread, even in some of our recent threads people argue the turnaround should have been sooner. Or if CWT would have gotten out of his own way Mike White could have lead this team to a greater season last year. His first year with the horrible dumpster fire there were those crying bloody murder. 

If you don't remember it has to be selective memory. I never said everyone, just a very vocal minority. The team at the  beginning wasn't firing on all cylinders but it wasn't horrible aside from Maryland. I personally don't like how  we seem to turn on him.  Look at the  on this thread alone. Makes our fan base seem two faced. I would take note, that's all I'm saying. It's easy to love him when you see the end result, I always remember those who turned their backs when I was down. 

Put me on record as saying that  CWT is just getting his payday. He has dealt with our I want it now mentality, name calling,  and sideline coaching all year. This is a business and I believe he's putting  himself in a better negotiating position. Think of it this way, if his season goes  how some expect next year, I'm sure he will truly remember how we treated him before he brought us to the promised land. Better not insult that man with a midseason extension as opposed to doing it now. 

Y'all are talking from the butt hurt. We didn't luck into a good six weeks it was a culmination of the process. Anyone with  eyes can see what has been built here and  appreciate it. We are a successfully rebuilt program, cupboards are full, and the stars are the limit.

I'm not paying for crap. They had money from my season tickets plus they found money to pay Skip and Leavitt for not coaching... Surely they can find money to pay the people doing a good job. 

I must be missing something...  if you aren't already a millionaire and you plan on being very frugal with your money how is 100,000 out of 150 mil. a reasonable contribution that spurs me to follow suit? I mean 1 mil. Wouldn't even remotely hurt your new found riches. Why contribute so little of a percentage? 

I think 2007 keeps getting the edge because we know without a doubt some of those dudes go to the NFL. I would love to pull this back up after this upcoming draft and a few more down the road to see how it compares.

I too dated different races and would advise my sons to do the same. I never said or implied that anyone has to be my same hue. I said I wanted to see variety, No more, no less. Anything else came from people inferring. I learned my preferences through life experiences, I don't hate. Different strokes for different folks. And differing opinions help us find balance. 

I like what I like... Can't fault a man for that. It worked out in my favor in real life. Now what's wrong with some diversity, I know it exists. I just want to admire it. 

Who am I going to blame for not being able to get a job?!? I'm well employed s are all of my immediate family. Conversations with the closed minded change nothing, it only fuels the divide. Those in power don't rely listen to those who aren't. What does it benefit the oppressed to hate the oppressor? This is not the place nor medium for this conversation, you can have it alone. We are in different sides of the political divide, let's just enjoy our common thread of football. 

We faced "great defenses' and torched them.  This team finds ways to win and it defense is built to stop the 2007 offense. My choice is 2015

Both twigs on the same branch. How much influence do those groups have?  What have they ever accomplished? Lol at the other side if the same coin, the kkk... political office, attempted genocide, local office, media influence, cultural influence... You really don't want to have this conversation. Either way I'm done with it. All because I wanted to see a variance on pictures of half naked women...