slowdown

57 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

 

he did not fail miserably. they made a bowl and like I said they lost 3 games to ranked teams by less than 1 score. they led in all those games in the 4th quarter.

Boise was a meltdown.  Not sure why that would make anyone sympathetic to the coaching job done there.

They also had 2 wins over bad teams by 1 score.   If you want to count close games, you should consider them both ways.

Wake, I guess was ranked at the time.  About as meaningful as us being ranked last season.

1 hour ago, El_Toro_86 said:

Only way I want Taggart back is if brings QF, MM and RA with him.  

I am like 99% sure that find them would be his highest priority

22 minutes ago, Bausfkid said:

Tough to come up with an answer for why USF when you exclaimed countless times that FSU is your dream job.  
 

 

He is slick Willie he will come up with something kind of corny and move on

"at the end of your dream you wake up"

"Dont dream about something, do something"

Etc

33 minutes ago, usf97 said:

I am real hesitant to see us bring in some big name assistant from one of these big schools where they have every advantage.

I’d rather see someone who has been able to have success at a lesser program. 

I get where you are coming from and I kind of agree.  Counterpoint is Frost, Heupel, and Fickell came from great programs. 

I think we need the little guy attitude - high energy and someone who can play the underdog. Don't think it has to come from a lesser program but it is something Kelly has to feel out.

2 minutes ago, hm101 said:

If a big-name school comes calling, and Taggart is in the seat, I think he will know the downsides of that versus some other guy, who may jump. I agree Taggart may not be a lifer, but if we can structure a deal that makes sense, I believe he will stay with us a long time and have some real passion for USF and the community.

I agree Taggart is more likely to stay longer compared to others, IMO

Still isn't high on my personal list

7 hours ago, Gismo said:

UCF has had success with hiring coordinators. We shouldn’t rule them out. 

As has Memphis and Cinci.  Was also Houston's move when they were the class of conference.  

Was also the case the year that Temple won conference. 

I think George OLeary is the only head coach who has won the conference who was a head coach before.  I guess Tuberville technically got a split too 

Just now, BDYZR said:

What would they have to reject if he's not allowed to apply in the first place? Not trying to argue, just a curious line, that's all.

My guess was they couldn't really tell someone they can't apply. 

Joe Brady and Jeff Scott interest me.  Haven't looked too much into them yet. 

I think the best formula in this conference has been hiring great coordinators from good programs.  Although I'd be looking at some of the overachieving programs, these two guys have everything at their disposal and that won't be the case here.  Want to get someone with a little chip on their shoulder.

Shaun King would be solid and I'd be okay with that depending on what and who is actually available to us.

Would love Leavitt.  

I just don't see anyone staying long term if they are winning at the highest level. It would not even be in my top 20 factors. 

The only exception was the guy whose baby this was.  No one else will have that connection.  

Has to be somebody

4 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said:

Player Development or lack thereof 

look at how flat this team comes out week after week, that is the enthusiasm they bring to the game aka the biggest stage.   and then realize they are almost assuredly approaching practice and off-season training with even less enthusiasm and it really makes sense why there is no development.  Starts with the attitude of the head coach. 

Just now, The Sheriff said:

McCheeseburger is pretty terrible. Maybe we should recruit a QB at QB - not an athlete wanting to be a QB.

He's not that athletic 

2 hours ago, Bull Daly said:

What is CWT bowl record? What is his record against top 25 teams? Don’t think it is very good 

I would even tag on to that, in the Taggart glory years here of 2015 and 2016, when we failed to win the conference or even the division, that Cinci, UCF, and SMU were trash teams and Memphis was okay but a little behind where they are now IMO.  Not only did we not win the conference under Taggart, but it is a bit tougher conference now

1 hour ago, ForestBull said:

I mentioned in the other thread, if QF was never a Bull we might've shut down the program. 

+1. I wouldn't say just QF, we had a handful of really good college players that allowed him to blossom.    but the defense was terrible and we had some holes in the depth chart even when we were top 25.   As a program I don't think we were that strong, just had a few studs.  They're all gone

I do think compared to Gilbert, Bell at least does different things that dont work, not necessarily just the same things

1 minute ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

Was not a good pass. Truth. Probably catchable but a tough catch to make.

would be caught about 96% of the time in your local over 40 flag football league

4 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

How do you open it up when you have no QB?

have to run the QB.  if you have a qb who can't throw and doesn't run you are short a man.

3 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said:

I’m about ready to see Rygol

Would probably be disastrous.  I do think we need to use J Evans in some wildcat stuff

Seems like we are starting 1st and 15 half the time.   Not near good enough for that

3 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

NO QB can succeed with our line. But our options really aren't great regardless.

same story as the last 15 years.   we need a dual threat capable qb, with a willing playcaller.   

I'm not against a "retread" as a rule but CWT is not a championship caliber coach IMO.  Never won a championship or even a bowl game.  Yes he improved our team greatly, but X's and O's he is not a top coach, NFL players and HS coaching.  So he comes back and as a coach who is primarily a recruiter and motivator, just older and having been knocked out a few times - not even at the top of that game.  

Its a very similar story to Strong.  Mostly mediocrity surrounded by a couple years with a great QB.  Maybe he is more likely to recruit that next great QB but its a little harder sell the second time around.

2 minutes ago, Rex Havoc said:

Most of the players on our team look like quitters or they just don’t give a f. Very little heart 

reflection of the coach.  every time he loses he digs in to his losing ways more.

1 minute ago, Rex Havoc said:

I’d just fire him now...let a fan from the stands coach. I’ll do it for 100K

Might at least get inspired trash.  Charlie has never given much indication that this bothers him.

1 minute ago, Rocky Style said:

I would go ahead and hope!  

If we could some how get an O line, we would be in such better shape.

O line play can be transformed by a dual threat QB, IF the coaches play to it.  Some of these same OL were okay two years ago yet looked awful last year and first two weeks this year.  

16 hours ago, Friscobull said:

Would have loved to see him one last year, speed and physical talent. I don’t want to read about a Gunsby failure, however kids will be kids

I don't blame him if he didn't want to dedicate another year of his life to lace them up for Alabama State.  Kid is done with football and now not going to waste the next three years realizing football is done with him. 

I hope he is in the right place to finish a degree up.  Some consistency issues, seemingly some other things, but I don't see that he deserves comparison to Gunsby.