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Our OLine can't open up the run game for us, and when we switch to the passing game our WRs can't catch passes and clearly the risk of interceptions is high. I don't see a magic turnaround for us in this one

17 hours ago, USFbulls24 said:

Nice post, but the guy is paid $1.8 million a year. Him getting the team ready and prepared is doing what he's paid to do. Praising him for that, after a loss that moves him to 1-20 against FBS opponents makes it seem like this program has just lost it completely. Let's save the thanking for when we actually win a game. I am very pleased with how they played, but for the coach who's motto is "the best is the standard" don't think he needs props for a close loss. Hoping this is the beginning of some wins though.

Wins don't come out of thin air. The foundations have to be set. I expressed appreciation that we are finally showing more than thin air. Its not yet wins. But we are finally starting to show significant signs of things that lead to wins.

Also, representing our school, our character, and our fans is not accomplished solely by winning. We all want wins. I believe we need good reflections on the people and the school we collectively love. Taggart won but in my humble opinion he was not a great personal reflection of what this school, its Athletics program, and our fans stand for. I believe we need a winning character; wins do not make the character- its the other way around. Leavitt's first team had a winning culture after a year of practicing without playing a single game to know whether they were winners. That winning culture was reflected in immediate competitive success starting the first season they played in games. 

Forgive me, but the bigger picture encompasses more than a win here and a win there. The trends are finally in the right direction. The wins will likely follow, though they aren't a guarantee, they're just much more likely with the right intangibles in the mix.

5 minutes ago, Bull Nut said:

I wouldn't be too quick to polish this turd quite yet... Like most Bulls fans last Saturday, I was entertained for 4 quarters and witnessed something we haven't seen in a while. Did we see life and a competent team last Saturday? Yes. The question is, can they build off that performance and keep improving each week? We can't ignore that up until last Saturday we've been abysmal to say the least. I hope you are right, but I think this thread is a little premature. Buy no means did we turn the corner, we still need to learn to win. Go Bulls! 

I am lauding them for things they can't fake. I hear you, we don't know whether it turns in to wins later in the year. But that team and staff's behavior was exactly what I'd been looking for to know a turnaround is in progress. Whether the game planning process can be established consistently is far from being known, and whether the staff can harness and maintain that over time is nowhere near proven.

I'm also not looking for a "win, now!" result. I want to see all the intangibles that great teams and staffs exude, and I expect more wins will follow. But I want to see that culture established and then maintained. I have no doubt the wins will follow, but I don't want wins "now" in favor of leaving trash in their wake, such as the Urban Meyer way. Yes I'll invoke it for once; I want to see the wins and the staff and the culture hang around for years like a Clemson. Once we get the right staff, my hope is there will be some continuity (usually via the head coach) and the success is maintained over time with some ebbs and flows each year which are natural in any organization. 

On 9/20/2022 at 12:01 PM, USFRaider said:

So you would be fine with a 1-11 season as long as their is effort?  

Yes, particularly in comparison to Taggart's years 1 and 2 and Strong's years 2 and 3. CJS year 1 was also still a struggle to turn the character of the locker room around. Last year, some players were more engaged than others, and the team did show some cohesion, but it just wasn't an exceptional amount nor was it thoroughly the entire team. Some individuals stood out as giving a high level of effort, like Jennings, Cecil, and Grier. The absolute lowest point was the Wisconsin loss, when players on the sidelines audibly said things about how little they cared, how stupid the coaching staff was, and how they were just there there for gettin paid, which I can only imagine must have been a reference to their scholarship (pretty sure this was pre-NIL and nobody would have offered them deals anyway).

Show that effort, keep heart, invest in the brotherhood... reflect the values of the school we love, and I'll follow 'em through a wall.

Just boarded the flight. Couldn't believe I got enough days off in a row to make the trip, gotta take advantage. These vocal vords will be destroyed by Saturday mid-afternoon

1 hour ago, CousinRicky said:

Are you stopping by the Alumni event? Can head out after that.

Yes we will be there

Don't think I've seen a thread anywhere - Dani and I just booked tours at Weller, Prohibition Craft Spirits, Kentucky Peerless, and Barrels & Billets. Most other distillieries are booked up already (ugh I'm always the last minute planner).

I was going to bring a tent and setup a tailgate but for a nooner, unlikely to have a huge crowd early, so we're hitting the Alumni "tailgate."

What else is going on? Anyone wanna meet up Fri or Sat after game? 

Tip of the hat to the Sheriff for flying in and coming to our USF fan tailgate!

Dear lord the offense calls are taking forever too

By the way, my wife who is a Gator graduate agrees fully. This DC is failing miserably by being in the box.

DO. YOUR. JOB. 

WELL.

TAKES ALL **** DAY TO CALL PLAYS.

IF HE DOESN'T MOVE TO THE FIELD, FIRE HIM. YOU TAKE ALL **** DAY TO MAKE A PLAY CALL AND OUR PLAYERS ARE LEFT TRYING TO PICK UP THE PIECES.

Seriously. I don't call for coaches to be fired, except Charlie Strong, which was very well deserved.

Our DC needs to go ASAP if he doesn't change his act, or get the call to players MUCH MORE QUICKLY.

DEAR BULLS

PLEASE DON'T GET SHUT OUT TODAY

THANK YOU FOR TRYING

5 hours ago, ahoyboy said:

3% Chance of a win. 

+/- a 3% margin of error...

A team that gives a **** and a coaching staff which spent many hours devising a half decent game plan which finds at least some success (and which hopefully doesn't involve HB dive every 1st and 2nd down).

13 hours ago, Brian Kimmel said:

Not sure how that's possible.  Are they remembering to mention to recruits they'll have access to all the free glitter they want?

They do not use glitter. That is another group which died years ago.

53 minutes ago, puc86 said:

Are they involved fathers?

I would lean towards yes. I taught waterski at the summer camp the Dungys sent their kids to. Tony himself very often picked the kids up each day. And I got to know Eric too; he was just a little tyke back then. Very mannerly for a kid his age, very pleasant to work with. And he talked about his parents often and all the stuff they did together (just came up in conversation, not like it was a topic of interest). I remember actually being impressed as a 16-20 year old at the time (can't remember exactly which years he was there) that an NFL head coach still found so much time to be with and do stuff with his kids.

5 hours ago, TRUTH D. Antagonist said:

there are only 168 hours in a week.

Yes, that was deliberate.

4 minutes ago, Brad said:

Tomorrow’s news today: #5 Clemson only beat Furman by 23.  

Next week's news today: Florida only beat USF by 52. In a stunning turnaround after getting shellacked by UCF in a bowl game just 3 games ago, UF beats USF 64-12 just to remind all that USF is at least as pathetic as UCF used to be before it beat USF nearly every time they played over a decade.

3 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said:

I agree that Jim Leavitt is the best thing to ever happen to USF football. We may never see quick success like that again.

His success was directly related to his commitment. Constant, dogged, unending commitment. I think it takes serious commitment to generate success. But that type of commitment is hard to find, rare.

I dunno.

I know that when we lost to Miami several times, lost to Rutgers and Oregon 2007, lost to all the teams we lost to prior to 2011, I never saw reason to question player and staff commitment.

Since CCS (and early CWT and late CSH) I have not seen the buy-in from players. 

That hurts me the most. Seeing the players clearly give less than 2 violation when we lost 62-0 to Wisconsin....that was heartbreaking. 

I WANT TO SEE BUY-IN. Is that too much to ask?

5 minutes ago, USFRaider said:

I am sure he is a nice guy, but he just happens to be a terrible football coach. 

And until this year, I would have fought you on that. But I just know we're going to lose by 40+ pts at Florida and miss out on a bowl game this year. Lose by a few scores in the 4th quarter and make a bowl game and I'll reconsider. Until then, I am done defending him.

1 hour ago, USFRaider said:

You were hoodwinked at the dinner Scott took you and your wife out to. I can’t say I blame you , probably would have happened to me too.

 

 

Not fair at all. Coach Scott is an awesome dude, personally. He says the right things. He cares about the right things. We just haven't seen it translate on the field. 

Dear lord compare it to Skip "that's why I'm here" Holtz and Willie "I don't give a **** what school it is, what history they have, what identity they have built, or literally anything at all except WILLIE WILLIE WILLIE. And let's not even approach Charlie "why am I here again?" Strong, who appropriately lost the locker room for not knowing which way is up and what his job was.

Jeff Scott is many times better for all the peripherals and intangibles compared with all those predecessors.

But dang y'all. When Jim Leavitt is your standard, its gotta be pretty hard to compare. 

But at the same token, I would have LOVED to crown CJS the 2nd coming, if the on-field product looked.... I dunno.... like it cared. Like it knew what it means to be a Bull. 

But so far, I can't say that. I want things to be different. CSH wasn't ready for the higher level. CWT was a selfish ***** who cared nothing for the school we all love. CCS was as lost as a Silver Alert. 

CJS is an awesome person. But the hard truth is that gets you so far. I would be ecstatic for 6-6 and a fighting chance in most games. I can forgive hard fought losses. I can't forgive when players don't look like they care and coaches don't look prepared.

13 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said:

I am watching that game as well, and I don't see them hitting with the same ferocity.

We must not be watching the same game. The USF players I watch dive in front of opposing players to try to trip them up, or they try to grab an ankle with one hand.