ToroDeFuego

Lot of talk last night. Might happen today.

Next time that someone from the media tries to explain why they don't cover USF as much as they the Bucs or Gators or some other team I'd like to show them this:

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A consultant found USF through its innovation and economic development efforts generates more than $400 million in statewide economic impact. That's an impressive figure, reflecting what an asset USF is to the Tampa Bay area....

USF reached that mark by investing in research and entrepreneurship, and those efforts account for more than 3,000 high-wage jobs yielding $149 million in household income, $224 million in gross domestic product and $52 million in tax revenues, according to the Washington Economics Group consulting firm.

And like it or not, the football team's success is a big reason people pay attention to a school.

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-usf-pays-off-big-for-tampa-bay/2303954

And I can't believe they lied at the press conference too!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-espn-pays-big-12-10m-in-restructuring-tv-contract-after-conference-doesnt-expand-144449541.html

3 minutes ago, Ricky the Bull said:

Greg used to do a lot of things beyond just writing articles.  He maintained a Facebook page specifically for USF coverage (TB Times Usf -still there but derelict) and would always talk to fans at events.  He is really missed. 

He was also covering the Bulls when the Times still had open comments on articles. When they changed that it absolutely killed the community aspect of it. In fact, that's how I needed up comping here.

I posted this in another thread but it's such a good read that I'm posting it again. It's kind of meant to be a dig against football but for any Bulls that weren't around before we had a program it's a great history lesson.

Some good quotes:

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U.S.F. didn't play football at any level until 1997. Its founding president, John Allen, who presided over the university from 1957 to 1970, was that rare thing in football-crazed Florida -- a staunch opponent of the sport. In the 1980's, U.S.F. alumni and Tampa businessmen began pushing for football, and the U.S.F. administration began lobbying a reluctant state Board of Regents for a team. In 1993, the outgoing president, Frank Borkowski, in his final weeks at U.S.F. and with the Regents' decision on football pending, hired Lee Roy Selmon -- a former N.F.L. star and one of the most admired men in Tampa -- to lead football fund-raising. That was the pivotal moment. ''I was in a pretty tight box,'' recalls Borkowski, now chancellor at Appalachian State University. ''The Regents did not want us to have a team.'' But to deny football would have been a slap to Selmon.

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Students have not been dependable fans. About 3,500 live on campus; nearly 10,000 more live in off-campus garden apartments, most of which have swimming pools and frequent keg parties. Fifty-nine percent of U.S.F. students are female, so young men, the natural college football audience, may have a particular incentive not to stray too far from home. ''If you want it to be,'' says the student government vice president, Dave Mincberg, ''it's like spring break 24/7 around here.''

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I met head coach Jim Leavitt for the first time just a few days before the biggest home game in the history of University of South Florida football. The opponent, Southern Mississippi, was the strongest team ever to visit U.S.F. and a favorite to break its 15-game home winning streak. U.S.F. had lost an early-season road game at Oklahoma, then the second-ranked team in the nation, but outplayed the powerful Sooners for long stretches. Leavitt's team was surging in the national polls; the New York Times computer rankings would place it as high as 18th in the nation, ahead of such tradition-rich football powers as Tennessee, Florida State, Auburn, Clemson and Nebraska. These accomplishments, for a program playing just its sixth season, were nothing short of astounding.

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'If we lose Jim Leavitt, from a marketing point of view, that's not a place I want to be,'' Veit says. ''I don't want to be me at that point. He's a hometown guy. He wins. People like him.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/22/magazine/football-is-a-sucker-s-game.html?_r=0

This year is in some ways a reverse of last year when Temple was 8-1 and playing a road game. Hope the scoreline stays the same though.

7 hours ago, Ionbull said:

IT'S GAMEDAY! 

GREEEEEEEEEEEN

 

 

 

WHIIIIIIIIIITE

https://twitter.com/USFFootball/status/789224285969743872

Just found this article. Recommended reading for any Bull, especially to those that attended USF after we had a team.

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U.S.F. didn't play football at any level until 1997. Its founding president, John Allen, who presided over the university from 1957 to 1970, was that rare thing in football-crazed Florida -- a staunch opponent of the sport. In the 1980's, U.S.F. alumni and Tampa businessmen began pushing for football, and the U.S.F. administration began lobbying a reluctant state Board of Regents for a team. In 1993, the outgoing president, Frank Borkowski, in his final weeks at U.S.F. and with the Regents' decision on football pending, hired Lee Roy Selmon -- a former N.F.L. star and one of the most admired men in Tampa -- to lead football fund-raising. That was the pivotal moment. ''I was in a pretty tight box,'' recalls Borkowski, now chancellor at Appalachian State University. ''The Regents did not want us to have a team.'' But to deny football would have been a slap to Selmon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/22/magazine/football-is-a-sucker-s-game.html?_r=0

On 10/17/2016 at 5:12 PM, Bulls On Parade said:

USF's biggest mistake was not starting football in the 60s. We got a very late start and will take years of success to get a big following.

 

Probably not. There's a very good chance that football would have been shut down if they did it before it was feasible. Maybe it was 10 years late but I'm not sure it would have made it through the 70's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_college_football_teams

I'm really surprised that this page from Houston's powerpoint presentation didn't seal the deal.

Have to say, our video pitch was so much better than this.

http://www.uhcougars.com/genrel/UH_presentation.html

I like Taggart but his coaching experience in the P5 is a running backs coach. He needs to do more than just turn around a C-USA and an AAC team before the bigger schools will consider him. Texas boosters flipped out over Charlie Strong who was DC of two SEC schools and head coach of Louisville not to mention experience at Notre Dame.

11 minutes ago, Bear said:

Maybe we can talk him into being the DC under Taggart and we could build a super team

Two branches off the Harbaugh tree. I would take it.

Whatever happened here, I'm happy to see Leavitt doing well back in college.

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Best turnaround

Colorado

It has been a long hard road back to relevance for the Buffaloes, but Mike MacIntyre has Boulder interested in its college football team again. CU has not won more than six games since 2004 and had just two Pac-12 victories in MacIntyre's first three seasons. Now the Buffs (5-2) are a win away from bowl eligibility and 3-1 in conference with a legit chance to take the Pac-12 South. Props also to defensive coordinator and former USF coach Jim Leavitt for the most improved part of the team.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/midseason-report-pleasant-surprises-flops-halfway-heisman-204429920--ncaaf.html

Any Bulls in Hyde Park? I see some at World of Beer sometimes but it would be nice to have a regular place.

23 minutes ago, thatBULL said:

They will expand eventually or be dismantled.  Remove TX and OU and you don't have much better than the Mountain West.  Their are only so many brands that can carry a conference each has 2-3, except the SEC. 

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Iowa State AD: "If we take Texas & OU out of the room, we're the Mountain West & we're getting $3M

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Iowa-State-AD-Without-Texas-Oklahoma-Big-12-is-Mountain-West-48346796

On 9/12/2016 at 2:30 PM, Who'sYourData? said:

You don't know whether they will make a decision or not, so how can something that hasn't even happened yet be ridiculous?

As to your second point, what?  ESPN and Fox give them more money than all other revenues combined.  The conference would be out of their minds not to factor in their single biggest source of revenue.  Ridiculous would be to freeze ESPN and Fox out of the decision.

Just wanted to say that I was of the opinion that this process was a joke back in September and got flack for it.

Seems like teams sit back on the sideline go routes but when they run a post to the middle it's open. UCF had a couple long wide open long catches that way against Temple. Maybe they're worried about Flowers throwing over the middle but it seems like they always go for the sideline routes.

Mack Brown is the analyst for the Temple game Friday. Will be interesting to hear his thoughts on the Big 12.

6 minutes ago, RedBull13 said:

Thats why you never bank on ANYTHING. Especially when the train-wreck of a conference known as the Big 12 is involved 

 

On another note, can you get that full article? Curious to read it but not curious enough to subscribe 

For some reason I could see the whole article when I clicked the link a second time.

Houston may have to get a second job.

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It's also a costly gamble. UH has spent more than $21 million in each of the past three years supporting an athletics program that doesn't make enough money to sustain itself.

It's a practice that UH apparently realizes it cannot keep up. Chancellor Renu Khator wrote as much in an email obtained by the Houston Chronicle. If UH does not get into a major conference soon, "it will be difficult for us to sustain it," she wrote in 2014 to a UH professor who sent her an article about college athletics spending.

"It's a big bet and we're not a cash-rich school," Jonathan Snow, the president of UH's faculty senate, said in a recent interview.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/UH-banks-on-joining-big-leagues-to-sustain-9125669.php

2 minutes ago, footnfan1 said:

Considering that every other power 5 conference's schools are hauling in A LOT more money than us, so no, no other P5 schooled called, should have been how that last question was answered.

Actually the Big 12 is third after the SEC and the Big 10. The problem is that it's dysfunctional and could implode at any time.

He's had a life in politics? That explains a lot.

If using the most amount of words to say absolutely nothing was a sport the Big 12 would be kicking ass.