Brad Posted August 1, 2016 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,342 Content Count: 97,412 Reputation: 11,098 Days Won: 471 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Big 12's status among the Power Five clearly in jeopardy (AP) As the Big 12’s tortured expansion process continues, a much-prophesied future is becoming increasingly likely: The Power 5 conferences could well wind up becoming the Power 4 in less than a decade. The Monday story from Sports Business Journal on the schism between the Big 12 and its TV partners, ESPN and Fox, further reveals the weakness of the conference. An expansion gambit that would contractually add dollars to the league but also do little to improve its quality is meeting heavy resistance from the most powerful TV entities in college sports. This is one more example of a league that has lost significant ground in the athletic arms race and is unsure what to do about it. At its spring meetings in early June, the Big 12 was clearly predisposed against expansion. By football media days seven weeks later, a transformation had occurred – the league said it was looking seriously at expansion. That was a presidential-level decision that seemed to come as startling news to some athletic directors and coaches. Shortly thereafter, presidents were publicly backing candidates – Texas and Texas Tech got behind Houston – and those on the outside were feverishly elbowing for a ride on what looked like the last chopper out of mid-major Saigon. From Boise State in the west to Connecticut in the east, schools on the outside launched P.R. offensives to sell themselves as Big 12-worthy. Rest of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodi Posted August 1, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 3,233 Reputation: 1,169 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/17/2013 Share Posted August 1, 2016 You do know that if one of those new adds wins the College Football Playoffs, this entire stance goes out the window. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 556 Content Count: 14,424 Reputation: 453 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted August 2, 2016 The new Big East. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBulls12 Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 3,701 Reputation: 930 Days Won: 7 Joined: 03/17/2012 Share Posted August 2, 2016 We are trying desperately to get into a conference that may be falling apart before our eyes. We show up thinking we are part of the big guys in the Power 5, but by that time all the big guys have left us with a conference of pieces that weren't good enough to be absorbed elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsofbull99 Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 114 Content Count: 6,744 Reputation: 912 Days Won: 17 Joined: 02/17/2002 Share Posted August 2, 2016 The Big 12 has already lost my recognition of them as a Power 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted August 2, 2016 7 hours ago, USFBulls12 said: We are trying desperately to get into a conference that may be falling apart before our eyes. We show up thinking we are part of the big guys in the Power 5, but by that time all the big guys have left us with a conference of pieces that weren't good enough to be absorbed elsewhere. At the very least, it's a conference in turmoil at the moment. It would be in their best interests to draw this all to a tidy closure by September. IMO, this shakeup would have been better served playing out last year when the playoff topic seemed a hotter issue--but I'm glad they waited, so we'd have at least a snowball's chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted August 2, 2016 3 hours ago, lotsofbull99 said: The Big 12 has already lost my recognition of them as a Power 5 You gotta watch what you say on here. Big 12 Brother is always watching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 487 Content Count: 12,550 Reputation: 2,942 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Exactly the reason I think they should expand now, take the money, and tell ESPN and FOX where to stick it. IMO, when this contract runs out they're going to get poached anyway. Remember when the Big East held out for a bigger contract? ESPN screwed us. Take the money NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,518 Reputation: 765 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted August 2, 2016 9 hours ago, USFBulls12 said: We are trying desperately to get into a conference that may be falling apart before our eyes. We show up thinking we are part of the big guys in the Power 5, but by that time all the big guys have left us with a conference of pieces that weren't good enough to be absorbed elsewhere. Big East Part Deux 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted August 2, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,720 Reputation: 1,234 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted August 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bear said: Big East Part Deux Well that would suck for WVU and TCU, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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